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29 Aug 2007, 10:03 pm

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You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


Hmm. That's unacceptable, but no reason to start threads crapping on peoples' religious beliefs. It could have been sorted before it got out of hand if you PMed a mod or something.

Not really. What he said wasn't really in violation of any rules AFAIK.



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29 Aug 2007, 10:05 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


I didn't compare the two, except to make an analogy between two different things. If I thought they were the same, I couldn't make an analogy, now could I?

I was asking you why two men could not get married. You then went on to talk about how we would then have to allow grown men to marry young boys etc.



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29 Aug 2007, 10:06 pm

Sopho wrote:
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You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.

You don't hate men? 8O But Raggy said so... I'm so shocked, I won't listen to him anymore :cry:


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29 Aug 2007, 10:08 pm

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You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.

You don't hate men? 8O But Raggy said so... I'm so shocked, I won't listen to him anymore :cry:

No, of course I hate men. :wink:
I hate you too greenblue, because I don't want to have sex with you lol.
I guess I hate my family as well.
I hate kids.
I hate my cat.
Sod it, I hate everyone and everything I don't want to sleep with. :P



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29 Aug 2007, 10:09 pm

I have not seen you post one comment here that hasn't contained at least ONE bible quote, and some hyperbole about everyone burning in hell for not believing. I put forward my viewpoint, from being an unbeliever, and get shouted down. and you wonder why I give it back to you? I see you as being proud in your beliefs, sure, but that pride has made your thinking very insular when it comes to arguing in a forum, and you obviously can't see anything objectively. That sort of pride was considered to be a sin, and unless you discard it and give everyone a chance, then I'm afraid it will be your undoing. You could also drop the sarcasm and innuendo too. The reason I talk about Christians 'turning the other cheek' and 'accepting other viewpoints' is because Christians I know don't practise half of the stuff you carry on with, saying that Jesus swore and had a vile tongue etc.... He may have sworn his head off, it doesn't justify the sort of behaviour that you Christians have been subjugating us with. Now if you want to have a reasoned argument, then go ahead, I'm listening. If you want to spout religious dogma, then become a minister and do it in a church.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:09 pm

Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Anubis wrote:
You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


I didn't compare the two, except to make an analogy between two different things. If I thought they were the same, I couldn't make an analogy, now could I?

I was asking you why two men could not get married. You then went on to talk about how we would then have to allow grown men to marry young boys etc.


No, I simply stated the fact that they are next in line to gain government approval. That's what the Man Boy Love Society is -- a lobbying group set up to get such consensual relationships legalized. And logically, after them await the beasties for government sanctioning -- it never ends in going downhill. That was my point.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:10 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Anubis wrote:
You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


I didn't compare the two, except to make an analogy between two different things. If I thought they were the same, I couldn't make an analogy, now could I?

I was asking you why two men could not get married. You then went on to talk about how we would then have to allow grown men to marry young boys etc.


No, I simply stated the fact that they are next in line to gain government approval. That's what the Man Boy Love Society is -- a lobbying group set up to get such consensual relationships legalized. And logically, after them await the beasties for government sanctioning -- it never ends in going downhill.


That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:12 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Anubis wrote:
You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


I didn't compare the two, except to make an analogy between two different things. If I thought they were the same, I couldn't make an analogy, now could I?

I was asking you why two men could not get married. You then went on to talk about how we would then have to allow grown men to marry young boys etc.


No, I simply stated the fact that they are next in line to gain government approval. That's what the Man Boy Love Society is -- a lobbying group set up to get such consensual relationships legalized. And logically, after them await the beasties for government sanctioning -- it never ends in going downhill. That was my point.

And whenever I mentioned you trying to prevent me from marrying a woman, you would reply with some stupid comment about me preventing kids marrying adults. This is why I no longer have any respect for you; you cannot seem to understand the concept of CONSENT.



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29 Aug 2007, 10:12 pm

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I have not seen you post one comment here that hasn't contained at least ONE bible quote, and some hyperbole about everyone burning in hell for not believing.


Ah, now THAT misperception I can correct: go back a page.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:13 pm

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That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.

Yes, but Raggy is suggesting that if gay marriage is allowed then pedophilia would be allowed too.
Then later he claims he wasn't comparing them :roll:


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29 Aug 2007, 10:15 pm

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That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.

Yes, but Raggy is suggesting that if gay marriage is allowed then pedophilia would be allowed too.
Then later he claims he wasn't comparing them :roll:


Homosexuality is between consenting adults, paedophilia is not. It should remain illegal forever.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:16 pm

Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Anubis wrote:
You even admit that you don't respect the religious beliefs of Ragtime. He actually debates properly, instead of typing the same insulting arguments over and over again.

Of course I don't respect Ragtime's religious beliefs. I used to have some respect for him, but not now that he's compared homosexuality to paedophilia and bestality, claimed that he somehow knows that I hate men, and come up with a shedload of other crap.


I didn't compare the two, except to make an analogy between two different things. If I thought they were the same, I couldn't make an analogy, now could I?

I was asking you why two men could not get married. You then went on to talk about how we would then have to allow grown men to marry young boys etc.


No, I simply stated the fact that they are next in line to gain government approval. That's what the Man Boy Love Society is -- a lobbying group set up to get such consensual relationships legalized. And logically, after them await the beasties for government sanctioning -- it never ends in going downhill. That was my point.

And whenever I mentioned you trying to prevent me from marrying a woman, you would reply with some stupid comment about me preventing kids marrying adults. This is why I no longer have any respect for you; you cannot seem to understand the concept of CONSENT.


"Whenever" you mentioned it? Out of the 30 times you specifically asked me why you can't marry a woman, I eventually brought up those pedo people two seperate, far-between times.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:17 pm

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That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.

Yes, but Raggy is suggesting that if gay marriage is allowed then pedophilia would be allowed too.
Then later he claims he wasn't comparing them :roll:


That's not what I said.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:17 pm

Anubis wrote:
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That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.

Yes, but Raggy is suggesting that if gay marriage is allowed then pedophilia would be allowed too.
Then later he claims he wasn't comparing them :roll:


Homosexuality is between consenting adults, paedophilia is not. It should remain illegal forever.

That is what this guy doesn't get, he doesn't understand the meaning of consent, or perhaps is because that word is not found anywhere in the Bible? could that be?


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29 Aug 2007, 10:17 pm

OK, that one. I personally think that lot is sick, too. South Park did a run on them, didn't they? Nambla, wasn't it?

It's that I feel preached at, and I hated it when my parents did it, and I said no-one else is going to get away with it.


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29 Aug 2007, 10:19 pm

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That group is sick, its adult members should be executed. Pederasty is disgusting.

Yes, but Raggy is suggesting that if gay marriage is allowed then pedophilia would be allowed too.
Then later he claims he wasn't comparing them :roll:


Homosexuality is between consenting adults, paedophilia is not. It should remain illegal forever.


Well, I agree, but then it gets into the legal definition of the term "adult". 18 years old in the U.S., right? Well, what if they changed it by law one day in the future to 17?


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