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The same can be said for your irritating quote mining, mostly from scientists who would probably spit at your feet you if they ever met you.

Now, here's a different image:

you realise that one of the headings of this particular forum says 'philosophy'... philosophy is not factual, in fact it doesn't say anywhere in the forum specifications that facts are a must have if you have an opinion or theory to go with it.. and there is absolutely NO reason for hostility against someone who has their own opinion, and by the way, i dont go around telling anybody they're wrong so what the hell are you talking about?.. this is a f*****g joke. You're making stuff up to make me look bad, I've done no such thing.. I dont attack people but i am on the defense constantly.. and anyone can look at a situation and make it look bad for someone who is on the defense because it's assumed that they did something wrong.. but don't assume, tell me what I did wrong. . because it seems having a mind of my own is the only real problem this day and age.

I happen to subscribe to idonttakestockinmysticalbullshitism.



Are you mistaking people who criticize you for mindless drones?

Please do not take this out of context and assume Schrodinger believed in some sort of solipsist lack of objective reality. Many people claim that quantum theory supports their own new age mysticism, and to do so undermines it's entire status as a science.

In other news, I think we should seriously discuss the facepalm. Why is the facepalm here? What does the facepalm mean to you?

But to understand quantum physics, you have to understand boring things like calculus and group theory, which are for close-minded ignorant people who don't have creative thoughts. So why bother doing that?



facepalm has a very special meaning for me

math = logic = "rights" and "wrongs" = narrow-minded = fascist sheeple

therefore:

math = fascist sheeple

Mathematicians may tell you that it takes an immense amount of creativity to do something as abstract and logical as to prove a theorem or program an computer with a function to produce a fractal, but that's a lie. Because math is fascist. And they're fascist sheeple.

The illuminati killed prabhupada!!

Well I'm inclined to believe you.

But you used the transitivity of equality to make your point, so eat s**t and die, fascist.

j/k

Actually, I remember an article about whether math is 'right wing' or 'left wing' and managed to dig it up here

http://www.maa.org/devlin/devlin_06_03.html

The author, Keith Devlin of Stanford University, concluded that math is really 'leftist' to the core, despite any initial impressions of rigidity and black and white attitudes you might get.



Well, yeah, seriously, math doesn't always prescribe 'right' or 'wrong' per se. There is usually only one answer, to be fair, but many, many ways to do it. We had the chance to prove a minor theorem last week for extra credit, and the way I picked was probably one out of several, most of which I would never think of. For the most important theorems, there are often scads of radically different proofs. For example, here are 19 proofs of Euler's formula:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/junkya ... r/all.html

The easiest one to understand, in my opinion, and the one I usually see in graph theory texts, is induction on edges. Yet there are many others, including two that have the exotic idea of using electrical charges on each vertex. (I'm not an electrical engineer, so I can't comment on them.)

idk maybe we computer / math people are sometimes a little more unfeeling than average. I noticed that's definitely less of a problem for me when I hang out with Lao or Thai people. They're pretty cool sometimes.

Such generalizations are not always considered to be safe statements..

Please.. could you be more specific.. ?

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"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force… We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."

Max Planck, Nobel Prize-winning Father of Quantum Theory

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How can he be more specific?

New-agers take science out of context to support their outlandish theories

They're much like creationists in that respect

Labels can often prove to be meaningless..

Define what you mean by "new-agers".. please.

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“People are disturbed not by things, but the view they take of them.”

Epictetus

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I didn't, but I had a hunch about where the discussion was going. I've seen the same happen with Hugh Everett's Many Worlds Hypothesis.



I wasn't generalizing. I made a statement about "many people" misapplying scientific theory, not "all people" or any specific demographic.



Well, that's basically it. I've seen, with a good deal of consistence, that some people take the unpredictability of quantum theory, or the hypotheses made to cope with the mind-boggling statistical anomalies present in quantum mechanics (i.e. Hugh Everett) and use it to justify their own personal beliefs.



This is why I brought that up. I have a feeling that what you're doing here is taking the beliefs of theoretical physicists and somehow think that you're validating them as genuine science due to their history of studying quantum anomalies. You're using Einstein and Schrodinger's personal beliefs to validate your belief in a subjective reality and Max Planck to validate your believe in God. There is no scientific proof for God, and there is no scientific proof for whatever solipsist subjective reality that you're constantly alluding to.

I am Illuminatus, I will conquer you all!! !

I ain't got time to interact,
with crystal wearing freaks in need of a smack
New age motherfuckers? Don't get me started,
I made more sense than them, last time I farted

Not to put too fine a point upon it,
but the whole new age movement is full of shit
Please allow me to elaborate,
explicate, expatiate,
from astral projection to zygomancy its a
mish mash of idiocy
Instead of the archaic worship of seasons,
they should explore logic and reason

It’s no good complaining about not having any time..

When you obviously spend so much of your time posting here..

If you didn’t post here so frequently.. I’m sure that would free up some of your time to post to a “crystal wearing freaks in need of a smack” forum.

If that is really what you want to do..

Go for it!! !..

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”It takes a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious.”

Alfred North Whitehead

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