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“Be courageous, and may your heart be strong,
All you who are waiting for God.”

Psalms 31:24

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Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible..

God willing..

Right now I'm having my dinner.......

And then.. possibly.. a joint.. for pudding.

Meanwhile.. there is certainly time to ponder..

Whether patience.. is a virtue....... or not..

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"The worship of God is: Honouring his gifts in other men, each one according to his genius, and loving the greatest men best; those who envy or calumniate great men hate God."

“God becomes as we are..

In order that we may become as he is.”

William Blake

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^^ Typical. Religionist. Excuses.

I've just been notified that my wife has brain cancer. You must pardon my intense feelings about a God who creates a universe that does this to decent people. My non-belief in Him is the kindest relationship I can have towards Him.

"I see everything I paint in this world, but everybody does not see alike. To the eyes of a miser a gold coin is far more beautiful than the sun. and a bag worn with the use of money has more beautiful proportions than a vine filled with grapes. The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others only a green thing which stands in the way.

Some see nature all ridicule and deformity, and by these I shall not regulate my proportions; and some scarce see nature at all. But to the eyes of the man of imagination, nature is imagination itself."

William Blake

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Are you in a hurry to know..that you argument might turn out to be illogical then..

If I were you.. I would go back and check what you were saying.

There are some obvious flaws.

munch.. munch.. munch...................... burp....:-0

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"It is only through the psyche that we can distinguish whether God and the unconscious are two different entities. Both are border line concepts for the transcendental contents. But empirically it can be established, with sufficient degree of probability, that there is in the unconscious an archetype of wholeness which manifests itself spontaneously in dreams, etc, and a tendency, independent of the conscious will, to relate to other archetypes to this center.

Consequently, it does not seem improbable that the archetype produces a symbolism which has always been characterized and expressed the Deity.... The God-image does not coincide with the unconscious as such, but with a special content of it, namely the archetype of the Self. It is this archetype from which we can no longer distinguish the God-image empirically."

Carl Jung - Psychology and Religion: West and East

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Note: God-image. . it is from the psychological point of view, a symbol of the Self, of psychic wholeness.

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"I am the one who comes from what is whole. I was given from the things of my Father. For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness."

Jesus - Gospel of Thomas

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The only flaws in my statements might be the occassional spelling error.

Introduce me to your god, or admit that you can't.

Well spotted.. that is one of them..

But then..

Could this idea below.. unite atheists and Christians.. ?

Speaking as one god-man to another..

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“Why keep our souls in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us outspokenly.

Jesus answered them: "I told you , and yet you do not believe. The works I am doing in the name of my Father, these bear witness about me. . . . .

I and the Father are one."


“Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances.”

John 10:17 + Friedrich Nietzsche

Well.. a guy can dream.. can't he..?

Of a Christian Atheist unity.



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Here's a Bible quote for you:

Are you a true prophet? If so, then your god speaks through you with his own knowledge and wisdom. If not, then you are a false prophet and a troll.

Here's your test: post my phone number, prophet.

I am irritated with the fundies. On the other hand, I would be equally offended by people who show photos of bombed-out abortion clinics or military funeral protests and put a caption on said photos that say "This is what all Christians actually believe".

And I am aware of the irony that a similar montage was used on South Park (which is a central theme in many of my posts), in "Trapped in the Closet" regarding Scientology.

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"As regards the prophet that prophesies Peace, when the word of the prophet comes true the prophet whom God has sent in truth will become known."

Jeremiah 28:9

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Fnord wants proof. This is a personal thing for everyone so you will have take matters into your own hands and seek your own enlightenment.
However, I think we should at least try to show him since he is asking. Everyone needs to see it in his own way. I guess he will have to see it in the physical to believe it. So, I suggest we do an experiment. Let's call on our gods to show himself to Fnord.

The experiment guidelines are simple. But, the "subject" must be a willing participant. Since you are a man of science Fnord, show that you can be unbiased by just being open to the possibility that their is a supreme being or spiritual realm.

Everyday at 11:11, let's pray for Fnord and Sand's wife who has brain cancer. We'll do this for 7 days and 7 nights.
I'll make a new thread and we'll figure out the details and come up with some sort of scientific formula.

To be fair, what's your control? You'd also need to come up with a fairly large sample for experiment and control both in order to do a reliable significance test.

I so affirm that I am open to the possibility of a Divine Being who can impart knowledge directly through prophets. I also affirm that the posting of my phone number by such prophet will be sufficient proof of that prophet's divine inspiration, and further proof of the existance of that prophet's god.

Seeing as how I just changed my unlisted phone number this last weekend, only a god could determine what it is.

You are looking for failure and that is a sign of bias.

He wants to avoid a type I error. That isn't biased.