Atheists: Is stealing wrong? If so, explain why.

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Agreed that the access to the planet's resources should be distributed evenly.

But it is equally stupid.

Not like I would like people to steal from me, but it is stupid, this whole sense of property has started so many wars...

That is agreed to.

We need an alternative.

http://thevenusproject.com
http://technocracynet.eu

If you buy something do you really check its origin? Do you know who was involved in it production? Maybe it could have been made with child labour/sweat shop.


I'm not an idealist, but there is problem with the no steal rule. Even legitimately the idea of ownership and value resets the balance of things. It can make people poor by association.

Khoisian tribes in Africa might not be considered poor, they won't stave so long as the Nambib desert and surrounding savannah is not destroyed. They are hunter gathers exclusively, no agriculture. They do trade with Bantu tribes. They don't have money per say, then just make Jewellery ostrich eggs, etc which they have done for centuries. As they are very good at finding food either hunting meat or vegetables, they actually spend the majority of their time relaxing. They cost the countries they live in nothing and maintain the habitats.

Oh sure, if there were no such thing as ownership, theft would not be a crime and you could snatch things away from other people at will. Yet another excuse to do whatever you want. Yet another way to get around the rules.

You misunderstand the problem is with the people doing the owning, they don't care how their "ownership" effects others. They really don't understand property or money they just know they can buy pretty much anything.

Stealing take many form for instance bullying country so they can’t use protectionism, yet using protectionism in your own country. That is not really different from stealing.

There is great land grab at the moment, where countries are baying up agricultural land because they don't have fertile land themselves. They are not going the pay the less off countries for their produce only take, and there will be less fertile land left over for their country’s population.

Some people show glimers of being perceptive, but then it just falls back down to simplistic thinking i.e. see no evil, hear no evil, it doesn't have anything to do with me type thing.

Does the OP ever return to his own topics?

well even if I don't obay the stupid christian laws
I do believe in Canada's laws

In Canada, theft is unlawful.

if an organism benefits from what it did not contribute to, then it is a parasite.

a world populated by parasites can not produce the nurture that parasites require.

there must be nourishing producers that parasites freeload and feed from.

i provide things to steal for wastrels who are in a torpid inertia. they are useless and they need to steal from me so they can eat and reproduce and produce more bacterial replications of themselves.

thieves are parasites.
they are like fleas who steal the blood from my ankles. i love innocent animals, but i have no mercy for fleas.
i experienced fleas once.

i did not feel any mercy toward them. i ended each fleas life with satisfaction during that plague.

they are my enemies.
people who take what they did not earn are just like fleas.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

But even parasites have a place in nature, do they not?

Do they?

...so you two are saying that we should institute the death penalty for stealing?

huh?
i said nothing of that nature.