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10 Nov 2011, 2:45 am

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That's a parody? I guess as an Aspie, I really don't get humor. I was taking those a**holes seriously.

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10 Nov 2011, 3:51 pm

Sorry, 'parody' was the wrong word. The pictures are real; the comments below each picture are mocking responses to the person in the picture.



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10 Nov 2011, 3:53 pm

The biggest achievement was the 99 percent 1 percent slogan.



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10 Nov 2011, 4:21 pm

The occupiers are achieving so much for the conservative movement. Keep it up, Flea Party! :)



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10 Nov 2011, 4:30 pm

So all Conservatives believe they will make it to the 1 percent?



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10 Nov 2011, 4:48 pm

Fnord wrote:
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I see it as irrelevent actually........winning and losing is for playing insignificant games for entertainment. I don't think once financial status makes them a winner or loser. I care more about what type of person someone is so I guess if I have to use the terms winners and losers I would see people who care about others and want to make things better as 'winners' and people who want to get to the top no matter who they step on for personal gain as 'losers.'
So, let me get this straight, someone who manufactures a product that makes millions of lives more comfortable (or in some cases even livable at all) is a loser because the sell that product for a profit. But someone who hands out a few cans of perishable food at the homeless shelter is a winner.

Actually, it's more like this...

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this is funny cuz it does not make sense. Wall street execs don't employ most people
and nobody hates doctors they hate HMO's
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10 Nov 2011, 4:51 pm

Since these Conservatives won't listen to us we need to form something like a Kibbutz.



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10 Nov 2011, 5:36 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JWC wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I see it as irrelevent actually........winning and losing is for playing insignificant games for entertainment. I don't think once financial status makes them a winner or loser. I care more about what type of person someone is so I guess if I have to use the terms winners and losers I would see people who care about others and want to make things better as 'winners' and people who want to get to the top no matter who they step on for personal gain as 'losers.'
So, let me get this straight, someone who manufactures a product that makes millions of lives more comfortable (or in some cases even livable at all) is a loser because the sell that product for a profit. But someone who hands out a few cans of perishable food at the homeless shelter is a winner.

Actually, it's more like this...

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this is funny cuz it does not make sense. Wall street execs don't employ most people
and nobody hates doctors they hate HMO's
Strawman


The Conservative persecution complex means that anyone even marginally more intelligent than they are perceived as insulting (thankfully not all of them though). Thus I think that cartoon characterization is more relevant as a glimpse into how a Conservative leaning individual might view society, rather than what it is claiming. When you also consider how mistrust of science is mostly endemic to conservatives (this includes doctors and their "snake oil" vaccines :P), how most GOP politicians (especially Sarah Palin) are essentially reality stars and simultaneously actors/and or comedians, it really makes a lot of sense!


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10 Nov 2011, 7:59 pm

Vigilans wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JWC wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I see it as irrelevent actually........winning and losing is for playing insignificant games for entertainment. I don't think once financial status makes them a winner or loser. I care more about what type of person someone is so I guess if I have to use the terms winners and losers I would see people who care about others and want to make things better as 'winners' and people who want to get to the top no matter who they step on for personal gain as 'losers.'
So, let me get this straight, someone who manufactures a product that makes millions of lives more comfortable (or in some cases even livable at all) is a loser because the sell that product for a profit. But someone who hands out a few cans of perishable food at the homeless shelter is a winner.

Actually, it's more like this...

Image


this is funny cuz it does not make sense. Wall street execs don't employ most people
and nobody hates doctors they hate HMO's
Strawman


The Conservative persecution complex means that anyone even marginally more intelligent than they are perceived as insulting (thankfully not all of them though). Thus I think that cartoon characterization is more relevant as a glimpse into how a Conservative leaning individual might view society, rather than what it is claiming. When you also consider how mistrust of science is mostly endemic to conservatives (this includes doctors and their "snake oil" vaccines :P), how most GOP politicians (especially Sarah Palin) are essentially reality stars and simultaneously actors/and or comedians, it really makes a lot of sense!


And of course, anyone with money is practically a demigod to the right, but prove that you're intelligent and educated, then you're an elitist.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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14 Nov 2011, 3:50 am

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1. I'm disqualified from the military due to physical problems.
2. My extended family was just as poor as my immediate family. Worse of in many cases.
3. We weren't Christian.
4. I would have loved a paper route when I was younger but adults started taking those positions.
5. People in their 60's did not face the equivalent of $20,000 a year in tuition alone for college.
6. Let's not kid ourselves about AS an personality tests employers give. McDonald's included.
7. My family did receive government assistance at one point. It was paid back later in the form of taxes.

So to the individuals who could join the military, had family or a church who could help them out financially, had job options such as paper routs, can pass personality employee personality tests, and don't have social difficulties in the workplace, I hope they realize how privileged they are.

On another note, many of those individuals got themselves into their own financial troubles however the other side to that story are lending houses that implement un-ethical, and in many cases, illegal lending practices, and lent money to individuals who should have never have gotten loans. For example, Country Wide and Fannie Mae.

On another note, when the economy crashed, my cousin, who came from less fortunate backgrounds than most, and has worked all of her adult life, lost her job because the business she worked for had been severely impacted by the recession, and by the time her unemployment applications went through, the government stopped distributions. This is a woman who did absolutely nothing financially irresponsible. She had been fortunate enough to be able to save money while she worked. Thankfully, she managed to get a job again right before her savings had been depleted, with the help of some friends.

There are others who haven't been so fortunate though, and this recession extends beyond the average American who was financially irresponsible. Americans who dig themselves into debt buying things they can't afford were not the cause of this recession. It was Americans buying things they couldn't afford with money they borrowed from banks, who made loans they shouldn't have made, for houses that shouldn't have been built but were built, sold, and bought anyway, based on assumptions that every finance professional had been taught from a young age not to make.

There are people out there who are very rich and who made that money by (often time illegally) profiting off of a corrupt system they knew was bound to collapse. It became a game of financial hot potato, and those individuals who violated laws in this matter should be prosecuted.



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14 Nov 2011, 3:56 am

And this person here...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltl3h ... o1_500.jpg

Is never going to be the 1% because he doesn't understand how the 1% became the 1%, which, in addition to "working hard", involves never investing your own money and figuring out how to pay less taxes than someone who earns $20,000 a year.

By the way, I have worked 112 hour weeks before, and that probably has not paid for the thousands of dollars in medical expenses it has caused.



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14 Nov 2011, 4:35 am

Chronos wrote:
LKL wrote:


1. I'm disqualified from the military due to physical problems.
2. My extended family was just as poor as my immediate family. Worse of in many cases.
3. We weren't Christian.
4. I would have loved a paper route when I was younger but adults started taking those positions.
5. People in their 60's did not face the equivalent of $20,000 a year in tuition alone for college.
6. Let's not kid ourselves about AS an personality tests employers give. McDonald's included.
7. My family did receive government assistance at one point. It was paid back later in the form of taxes.

So to the individuals who could join the military, had family or a church who could help them out financially, had job options such as paper routs, can pass personality employee personality tests, and don't have social difficulties in the workplace, I hope they realize how privileged they are.

On another note, many of those individuals got themselves into their own financial troubles however the other side to that story are lending houses that implement un-ethical, and in many cases, illegal lending practices, and lent money to individuals who should have never have gotten loans. For example, Country Wide and Fannie Mae.

On another note, when the economy crashed, my cousin, who came from less fortunate backgrounds than most, and has worked all of her adult life, lost her job because the business she worked for had been severely impacted by the recession, and by the time her unemployment applications went through, the government stopped distributions. This is a woman who did absolutely nothing financially irresponsible. She had been fortunate enough to be able to save money while she worked. Thankfully, she managed to get a job again right before her savings had been depleted, with the help of some friends.

There are others who haven't been so fortunate though, and this recession extends beyond the average American who was financially irresponsible. Americans who dig themselves into debt buying things they can't afford were not the cause of this recession. It was Americans buying things they couldn't afford with money they borrowed from banks, who made loans they shouldn't have made, for houses that shouldn't have been built but were built, sold, and bought anyway, based on assumptions that every finance professional had been taught from a young age not to make.

There are people out there who are very rich and who made that money by (often time illegally) profiting off of a corrupt system they knew was bound to collapse. It became a game of financial hot potato, and those individuals who violated laws in this matter should be prosecuted.


You're absolutely right - the rich bastards who caused this cluster f**k should be prosecuted.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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14 Nov 2011, 6:50 am

Hollywood celebrities and reality show faux celebrities "bring jobs".


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14 Nov 2011, 7:34 am

1) The joke's on you if you think the protesters haven't had any effect. A lot of people are moving over to credit unions. It's nothing new, though: the Tea Party activists managed to get their way in 2010, after all. Civilized protest does work, and that's why people do it rather than rioting and destroying people's property.

2) Nobody is really legit bothered by these protests, not even most bank execs. They are really quite civilized, for the most part. Even if you ran into them one time on your morning jog, you know from then on that they are there, and you know to run one more block to avoid the obstruction. I was still doing my summertime jogging when they came to Raleigh, so I know this first-hand.

3) These Occupy guys are no more "socialist" than saying, "well, I do sometimes feel a little strained by the income tax, and can we discuss some of these over-complicated deductions?" makes you a fascist.

4) "Socialism" has gone the way of "nazi" in having totally lost its meaning anymore.

5) Stop using one daft word as a term of abuse for everything that you THINK you disagree with.

6) Seriously, it makes you look like an a**hole.

7) And count yourself lucky that these protesters aren't throwing molotov cocktails under your wheels. Aren't you glad that you live in a damn Western democracy, where you can get things done without having to be so destructive?



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14 Nov 2011, 8:51 am

1) Always specify who you are directing your rants to. Specially if you are calling people a**holes.
2) If it is directing at the OP, then I am afraid you didn't actually read it.


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