Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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That.

Moms who work feel guilty for not staying with their children.
Moms who don't work feel guilty for not making money.
Either way, they do the majority of the housework.
And do it all on a diet of carrot salad. Have to be pretty!

Trying to get men and women to be what they are not? Strict gender roles are what is trying to get men and women to be what they are not. I don't like people telling me the way I am is wrong because the natural way I am doesn't fit their idea of what is masculine or feminine.

If women aren't supposed to be "wage slaves" what else are they supposed to be, a slave of a man and barefoot and pregnant and chained to a stove?

Nobody is trying to turn people into something they aren't. Everybody should be free to pursue their own goals and live their life as they see fit. We can't sort people into two gender drawers, because there are way too many exceptions to the rule. Both biological sex and gender identity are on a spectrum. And women who neatly fit into the 100% feminine drawer value their freedom and equality as much as the next person.



You don't have to force women to have children. They are entirely capable of making that decision for themselves. Besides, this planet is hopelessly overopulated. A birth rate that is slightly below replacement value seems like a great idea, if you ask me.



Many women are running their own businesses nowadays. Others work in senior management and CEO positions, and some day a woman might run the country. In Germany, this is already the case.

Who defines what's feminine and what's masculine ?

Our patriarchal ancestors?

Feminism is stupid. Equality is not.

If you think feminism does not ask for equality, then you are bashing a straw feminism.

A-Men!

Besides, feminism is not truly about equality. It's about women's self-interest.


AFAIC feminists take themselves waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously and need to learn the fine art of self-deprecation.

uhhhh no. feminism is about equality. it originated because women did not HAVE equality, therefore it the name reflects that. if you think feminism is about anything else, then you are probably not fully educated about it.

I wish it weren't it this way but I think you're right, ALTHOUGH, thee are new branches of feminism that try to get away from this kind of thinking.

I think feminism went horribly wrong and did become very much about a woman's self interest along with trying to be equal and superior at the same time. I do think it started out with good intentions.

Some feminists today (3rd wave feminists) are really trying to break away from the feminists who have made the movement such a hot mess. It's worth looking into if you're interested. I'm not interested, not because I disagree with it, I just find it kind of boring.

just because some extremely radical branches focus on putting women first does not mean the entire movement is flawed. the majority of feminists do not put women above men.

Those poor straw people, what have they done to you?

But since they're the most vocal and were probably the most dominant at one time, it means the way most people think about feminism will be affected by those women. I've heard that other feminists don't even like the radical feminists. I don't blame them but I don't understand blaming anyone who has this view of feminism because of the radicals.

I only found about Third Wave feminism a few years ago. I'm not really "into it" just because it's not my thing but I think it makes a lot more sense than previous branches of feminism. If I had a stronger sense of gender identity I probably would be into it. I don't consider myself to be anywhere on the Trans spectrum but I really don't identify with women.

The few radical extremists that are part of nearly every movement aren't really the most vocal, it's just that the media focuses on them.

It's been my experience that most 'self-described' feminists tend to have a chip on their shoulder and a no-nonsense, nun-like attitude about certain things, like calling women 'dude' or saying 'you guys' when some of the 'guys' are actually girls (seriously, who cares? I call everyone dude lol. girls call other girls dude these days). However, if feminism is defined by the dictionary, as simply being equality, I would consider myself a feminist, even though I don't really like the word (what's someone who's not racist, an 'Africanist'?)

Added: A good deal of 'self-described' feminists are lesbian or bisexual too, which of course isn't a problem, just a pattern I learn and I think part of the reason is because women who are sexually attracted to men might feel less compelled to resent them? Plus obviously lesbian and bi girls may have a higher opinion of women in general because they are sexually attracted to them.