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23 Mar 2012, 5:09 pm

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that you really, really need to wave a bit of coloured cloth about and join in tribal chants to feel a sense of pride for your country or its achievements? That's really very odd and makes no sense to me.
no, i care nothing for the flag - you just assume.
If you care nothing for the flag then why quote several articles dealing with nothing else?
You're using the flag to illustrate something unrelated. It's a different argument but you're trying to conflate the two and use one as a symbol for the other.

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the point of the thread is about MC. i just pointed out one small, tiny way in which the british people lose out to the UNNEEDED immigrants coming in. there are hundreds of other ways in which the british people are losing out, being silenced and slowly being screwed by the government.
Which is the other issue, having nothing to do with a flag...


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24 Mar 2012, 1:18 pm

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The Gazette wrote:
“The reasons for the refusal for permission are the sign is gawdy with too many angles, triangles and colour.
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A Fylde Council spokesman said: “The council refused planning permission on the basis it was too big and also too visually busy.
“It was gawdy design and out of character for a semi rural village. It has been appealed and dismissed on the same basis.
“We acknowledge there is some support for the sign in the area but this particular sign was not suitable,
“Mrs Salthouse is free to submit another planning application which will be viewed thoroughly and fairly.”
So, no mention of a flag, then.



Have you actually looked at the sign in question Cornflake?


The ONLY colours in it are red, white & blue the exact shades of the union flag.

The ONLY triangles in it are those found in the union flag.

So how exactly is this not a ban on the union flag as any design featuring the union flag will have the same colours and triangles present?

Personally I think the mixture of fonts is horrible but oddly enough the council doesn't mind that, just the 'triangles' and 'colours'.

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24 Mar 2012, 2:23 pm

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Personally I think the mixture of fonts is horrible but oddly enough the council doesn't mind that, just the 'triangles' and 'colours'.


Indeed - if anything, it's the lettering that's the problem. Nothing wrong with the flag.



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24 Mar 2012, 5:50 pm

If a better world is possible, in what solar system is that world?

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If a better world is possible, in what solar system is that world?

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24 Mar 2012, 8:33 pm

DC wrote:
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The Gazette wrote:
“The reasons for the refusal for permission are the sign is gawdy with too many angles, triangles and colour.
(...)
A Fylde Council spokesman said: “The council refused planning permission on the basis it was too big and also too visually busy.
“It was gawdy design and out of character for a semi rural village. It has been appealed and dismissed on the same basis.
“We acknowledge there is some support for the sign in the area but this particular sign was not suitable,
“Mrs Salthouse is free to submit another planning application which will be viewed thoroughly and fairly.”
So, no mention of a flag, then.
Have you actually looked at the sign in question Cornflake?

The ONLY colours in it are red, white & blue the exact shades of the union flag.

The ONLY triangles in it are those found in the union flag.

So how exactly is this not a ban on the union flag as any design featuring the union flag will have the same colours and triangles present?
Because, as the council clearly stated, "the sign is gaudy with too many angles, triangles and colours."
They did not say "because it is using flags". That's what everyone with an axe to grind is saying.

Rearrange the coloured blocks which happen to represent flags into a jumbled mess of coloured shapes - don't change their shape or relative sizes; just rearrange them. The council would object for exactly the same reason.
They would also object for the same reasons if, as I said earlier, a 30-foot bright orange flashing display saying "CHIPPY" was erected: it would be gaudy and out of character for a semi-rural village.

Now you can quite justifiably argue the toss about what "out of character" means (it's probably documented and available in incredibly tedious detail from your local council) - but the flags were never banned: some noisy signage was.

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Personally I think the mixture of fonts is horrible but oddly enough the council doesn't mind that, just the 'triangles' and 'colours'.
It's a minor, irrelevant point compared to the main objection.
An entirely unrelated situation as an example: if you were to erect a massive spotlight and shine it into someone's living room from the street, the exact wattage of the lamp is irrelevant when considering the intrusion caused.


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