Why don't the faithful hold God morally accountable?

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02 May 2012, 9:32 pm

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To you maybe, to me it's hilarious.


Christians are people to and as humans they are very flawed... not all christians are like that either


Really now. Go find me some Christians that follow all of their gods commands.


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02 May 2012, 9:34 pm

abacacus wrote:
lilbetta wrote:
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To you maybe, to me it's hilarious.


Christians are people to and as humans they are very flawed... not all christians are like that either


Really now. Go find me some Christians that follow all of their gods commands.


I would love you to meet the catholics in my family they do.



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02 May 2012, 9:34 pm

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lilbetta wrote:
abacacus wrote:
To you maybe, to me it's hilarious.


Christians are people to and as humans they are very flawed... not all christians are like that either


Really now. Go find me some Christians that follow all of their gods commands.


I would love you to meet the catholics in my family they do.


They must have quite a rap sheet with all the murders.


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02 May 2012, 9:36 pm

abacacus wrote:
Joker wrote:
abacacus wrote:
lilbetta wrote:
abacacus wrote:
To you maybe, to me it's hilarious.


Christians are people to and as humans they are very flawed... not all christians are like that either


Really now. Go find me some Christians that follow all of their gods commands.


I would love you to meet the catholics in my family they do.


They must have quite a rap sheet with all the murders.


Trust me you have no idea :wink:



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03 May 2012, 7:00 am

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Starting from a standpoint that God exists and actually Does Stuff with His great omnipotence, why is it that those who choose to believe in Him fail to hold Him morally accountable for His own actions?


Modern monotheism considers the word of God as objectively moral.

You can't hold an omnipotent authority that sets and executes laws alone accountable.

Why this is a difficult question?


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03 May 2012, 7:55 am

Well, I'm going to sort this out once and for all.

OK, first off I am the chosen voice of god so I know what I'm talking about cause I saw some bright lights and heard a voice in my head and no it wasn't just a migraine and bla bla bla

All previous religions are false

God may or may not exist, but he isn't telling either way. So stop asking.

God (if he exists) is sort of like me. He doesn't want you to look at him all the time, he'd rather not talk to you, and he sure as hell doesn't want to spend all eternity with you as a guest. I, the Prophet, have been sent to tell you all to f... off and mind your own business.

He has only 4 commandments

1- Do not worship God, or you go to hell. He hates sycophants with a passion.
2- You may believe in him, but only when it is critically necessary. How you manage this is not God's problem. Just be glad he permits exceptions occasionally.
3- Be a decent person. He says to tell you, you know perfectly well what he means and you're not fooling anybody.
4- With the exception of this, the only approved message, you may not talk about God to anyone ever, he hates people talking about him behind his back, especially when they haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

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03 May 2012, 9:44 am

sage_gerard wrote:
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Starting from a standpoint that God exists and actually Does Stuff with His great omnipotence, why is it that those who choose to believe in Him fail to hold Him morally accountable for His own actions?


Modern monotheism considers the word of God as objectively moral.

You can't hold an omnipotent authority that sets and executes laws alone accountable.

Why this is a difficult question?


I am working under the assumption that you mean objectively morally good:

Because it's not objectively moral... it's SUBJECTIVELY moral. Objectively moral means that anyone could do what he did and have it considered good. AKA, I could go murder thousands of people and, if gods word is objectively moral then that means I have done some very good acts.


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03 May 2012, 10:27 am

sage_gerard wrote:

Modern monotheism considers the word of God as objectively moral.



What does "objectively moral" mean? There are no moral facts. Only moral judgements.

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03 May 2012, 1:24 pm

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3- Be a decent person. He says to tell you, you know perfectly well what he means and you're not fooling anybody.


This. This. A thousand times this.


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03 May 2012, 1:25 pm

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What does "objectively moral" mean?


I have no clue. Well, more accurately, I know what it means, but I'm only parroting what I hear. I hear theists say it a lot, so ask them for their take.

I agree with your statements, though.

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I am working under the assumption that you mean objectively morally good:


Nope. I don't believe in that. See above.


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03 May 2012, 1:27 pm

sage_gerard wrote:
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What does "objectively moral" mean?


I have no clue. I hear theists say it a lot, so ask them.


Objectively moral isn't a term I have heard Theists use but I am not saying that they don't.