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16 Feb 2016, 1:54 pm

Hung up?!?

Well, THAT'S perfectly understandable behavior for a routine death.

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16 Feb 2016, 1:59 pm

1.hippa

2.most = not all. And being 79, you don't need a major cardiac condition to knock you out. He could've thrown a clot.

3. Given the intricate plot i previously listed that was only a subset of what would have to happen perfectly (and i too follow occam's razor), IF all that happened, why would an autopsy stop your thought process? Why wouldn't it be a very hard to trace, specific poison that wouldn't show in a general tox report or a paid-off pathologist? After all, this would have been an exceedingly elaborate plot.

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16 Feb 2016, 1:59 pm

nurseangela wrote:

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nurseangela wrote:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/15/texas-judge-who-decided-no-autopsy-was-needed-in-scalia-death-discloses-new-details/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Firewire%20Morning%20Edition%20Recurring%20v2%202016-02-16&utm_term=Firewire_Morning_Test

This just in. The Justice of the Peace is trying to paint Scalia with all these "supposed" health problems relating to his heart. Scalia evidently had an MRI done of his shoulder and she is saying that Scalia wasn't a surgical candidate because of cardiac problems. Patients do have to go through a cardiac workup and be cleared by a cardiologist for surgery. Scalia evidently needed a rotator cuff surgery and was told that physical therapy would be best. Scalia needed rotator cuff surgery because he's an AVID TENNIS PLAYER according to the article. I went on the Internet to find other evidence that Scalia did play tennis and I did find several sources that confirmed it to be true. If the guy can play tennis, he sure doesn't have any heart problems. Another piece of the puzzle.

It's recommended that people with heart conditions exercise if they are able.Being a nurse,you should know this.
http://www.eastern.usta.com/Resources/m ... the_heart/

I do know that since I am also brilliant. However, I would be more likely to believe that avid tennis players don't have heart conditions, unless hereditary, in the first place.

Which leads me back to my first point of having an autopsy so everyone isn't just guessing why this guy died in repose position with a pillow over his face and no rumpled bed sheets. I work on a cardiac floor with cardiac patients so I know more than you give me credit for. Most cardiac patients have other comorbid conditions that have put them where they are (such as copd) and I've been on the telemetry unit for maybe 15 months and I haven't seen any avid tennis players around age 79 - actually I haven't seen any.

Arthur Ashe was more than an avid tennis player and yet he had a heart attack.
How would you know who plays tennis or not?Many older people play.
http://www.itftennis.com/seniors/rankin ... kings.aspx
Off course his doctor hung hung up,that info is confidential.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:02 pm

Misslizard wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

It's recommended that people with heart conditions exercise if they are able.Being a nurse,you should know this.
http://www.eastern.usta.com/Resources/m ... the_heart/

I thought Arthur Ashe died of AIDS.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:02 pm

Provider-patient privilege terminates on death of the patient. Just ask President Lyndon Johnson's psychiatrist. Many personal physicians of famous individuals are among the first to be interviewed by news reporters.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:05 pm

Hopper wrote:

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Jacoby wrote:

There is no real "news" period

it's all propagandists and snake oil salesmen

If I actually thought Obama and the Democrats could force their nominee thru then maybe I'd care more about a potential conspiracy but they can't so they won't get to make this next appointment so killing Scalia would be pretty pointless. Wonder who Trump will name to the court...

I put nothing past Asswipe - NOTHING. I thought I read somewhere that the remaining justices could still vote and the outcome be tied so whatever circumstance they were voting on would still go Asswipe's way. Not true? Anyone know for sure?

And another thing, I don't put it past some Republicans to be in on something like this - I'm talking about the Rhino Republicans like Lindsey Graham and John McCain. But that's a whole different story.

What could happen such that you would consider Scalia's death to not be murder for political ends?

If things had been done the correct way in the first place - secure the scene, hold the body, have an actual medical examiner proclaim death after seeing the body, autopsy, toxicology - everything above board. Toxicology is ruined with the hasty embalming that they thought was so necessary. An actual person sometimes waits 3 or more days to be embalmed - that was the first thing that made me think they were hiding something. That's why I will really think its murder if the guy gets cremated - that will be total destruction of evidence.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:07 pm

Indeed, nurseangela! My concern all along has been that it seemed rushed. Texas is the worst place to die alone.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:11 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

It's recommended that people with heart conditions exercise if they are able.Being a nurse,you should know this.
http://www.eastern.usta.com/Resources/m ... the_heart/

I thought Arthur Ashe died of AIDS.

He had the heart attack earlier,survived it.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:15 pm

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Indeed, nurseangela! My concern all along has been that it seemed rushed. Texas is the worst place to die alone.

Where is the best place to die alone?
Texas is a conservative state,seems like it would be the best place for a Repub to croak.
Apparently his family thinks no foul play was involved,don't you think they would demand an autopsy if they had the least suspicion?

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16 Feb 2016, 2:18 pm

Texans themselves say this. They go on to describe how corrupt Dallas and Houston are.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:18 pm

Misslizard wrote:

Apparently his family thinks no foul play was involved,don't you think they would demand an autopsy if they had the least suspicion?

They're part of the conspiracy

(/sarcasm)

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16 Feb 2016, 2:20 pm

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Hippa protects the patient 50years post-death during which time, a representative makes the call on info release.
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-profession ... index.html

It was not around when johnson was.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:22 pm

Misslizard wrote:

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Indeed, nurseangela! My concern all along has been that it seemed rushed. Texas is the worst place to die alone.

As per reports, they are the ones who refused one. The jop originally was going to call for one but then talked to them and the dr and called the death instead.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:25 pm

100000fireflies wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

AspieUtah wrote:

Indeed, nurseangela! My concern all along has been that it seemed rushed. Texas is the worst place to die alone.

As per reports, they are the one who refused one. The jop originally was going to call for one but then talked to them and the dr and called the death instead.

That's just what THEY want you to think. Someone got to them and now they're too afraid to speak up.

(/sarcasm)

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16 Feb 2016, 2:32 pm

Misslizard wrote:

AspieUtah wrote:

Indeed, nurseangela! My concern all along has been that it seemed rushed. Texas is the worst place to die alone.

He died in the loneliest (most remote) part of Texas.

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16 Feb 2016, 2:34 pm

He died at a 'luxury hunting resort.'
Anybody check to see if Cheney was around?

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