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18 Mar 2016, 6:40 pm

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That video is asking people to rise up against Trump and his "brown shirts". I do remember several saying that I'm wearing a brown shirt. That video is also saying that I'm a terrorist and that I have "white privilege". If you think the radical Left won't take off and run with this then you are in total denial. Democracy Spring is coming too. I guess we'll see what is to come.

If you support Trump you do support terrorism. Terrorism isn't just a Muslim thing. Killing innocent people for political purposes is the definition of terrorism. And he supports torture. Which is against US and international law. And he incites violence at his rallies. I agree with you that civil war is coming because people are too stupid to know what's going wrong. It's the long emergency, born of the mismanagement of resources, mostly energy. We squandered our wealth on a way of life with no future. We failed to prosecute those responsible for the recession. We spent billions on war and let our children struggle with unreasonable debt just to get an education. We put (mostly minority) fathers in jail because we cared more about appearing tough than the well being of families. It was all predictable. Now the masses look to a daddy figure on one side, and a mommy on the other.



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18 Mar 2016, 7:09 pm

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The Right has been sitting down for too long. It's time WE stood up and fought for this country. The Left keeps talking negatively about billionaire Trump when (according to the article in black and white) the Left is being funded by George Soros who is much richer than Trump. Any argument about the rich taking over this country and it is all the Republican's doing is BS. Soros funded the Occupy Movement before and he is now funding the Democracy Spring movement and there will be violence because that is what he wants. The little 78 yr old punching that guy is just the start of things to come.

There is really going to be an uprising from the Right if there is an Open Convention like what the Rhinos are saying they want - a force out of Trump and Cruz and the putting in of Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush who are not even in the race. There's going to be fighting from all sides - the Left against the Right, the Right against the current Republicans - A Civil War. I fully expect Martial Law to be started before the end of the year.


This isn't just YOUR country, other people live here too. Why is the nurse one of the more violent people on this forum?


You picked the wrong word - I'm not violent - I'm PASSIONATE - especially after what happened today. (See below)

Something that's on my mind - I did my taxes today and the tax man was telling me how much business they get in January from the people that are getting returns. He said the people that come in are the ones that don't pay anything into the system, but walk out with $7,000-10,000 refund. He said they don't have any checking accounts so they walk out with that big of a check and then down to Walmart and spend $6 to get it cashed and then are walking around with $7,000-10,000 pocket money. He said they usually have about 3-4 kids that they are getting the money back for. Isn't that just swell. Let's say that I'm in an even grumpier mood than usual.


Quit being a whiner and complainer. Accept that life is unfair. So, they get a $7000-$10,000, tough titties. Suck it up buttercup!



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18 Mar 2016, 7:11 pm

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you'll have to excuse me if I have a bad attitude toward people who are on disability

No, we don't "have to" do that at all! :evil:

If we want to see you as the spiteful person your words seem to indicate, we are perfectly within our right to do that.


And I don't care if you excuse me or not. It's a free country and I have a right to my attitude. Believe me, I've been in healthcare long enough to see how it's abused. You may not be doing it, but there are plenty out there that do and that makes people like me jaded when there are people out there who really do need disability. With all the meds on the market there's usually something to cover it all so one can still work.


Like I said, suck it up cause life ain't fair. Quit your whining and slog on.



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18 Mar 2016, 8:56 pm

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Hi, I'm dealing with it. Personal attacks are not OK and he has been sent a warning. We can still disagree while remaining civil to one another.


Yes marshall's reply was over the line. But how is it 'civil' to be on this forum and repeatedly go on about how people don't 'deserve' to be on disability? People here get that from everywhere else in the world and this is supposed to be a somewhat supportive place, not one where "pff depression .take meds and get back to work! Anyone with depression/anxiety/whatever can just be fixed. I've had X and i can work. So if they're not, they're just wanting to sit on their ass and eat bonbons while the rest of us pay for them. "

To me, those kind of repeated derisive, denigrating statements are almost as much of an attack as marshall's direct reply. Most people on disability - mental Or physical - would trade their personal hell in a minute in exchange for the ability to work.


Again you're putting words in my mouth. I said disability is warranted for some cases - not everyone. And a person has every right to have an opinion. Calling someone names is not part of an opinion - that's personal. I haven't called anyone any names in this whole thread so I deserve the same treatment.
See the thing is whether you want to believe it or not everyone does not deserve disability. People abuse disability. And once you're on disability, isn't it for life? Would someone answer that question for me please?


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18 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm

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Hi, I'm dealing with it. Personal attacks are not OK and he has been sent a warning. We can still disagree while remaining civil to one another.


Yes marshall's reply was over the line. But how is it 'civil' to be on this forum and repeatedly go on about how people don't 'deserve' to be on disability? People here get that from everywhere else in the world and this is supposed to be a somewhat supportive place, not one where "pff depression .take meds and get back to work! Anyone with depression/anxiety/whatever can just be fixed. I've had X and i can work. So if they're not, they're just wanting to sit on their ass and eat bonbons while the rest of us pay for them. "

To me, those kind of repeated derisive, denigrating statements are almost as much of an attack as marshall's direct reply. Most people on disability - mental Or physical - would trade their personal hell in a minute in exchange for the ability to work.


And another thing, if I was diagnosed with Asperger's, would I then be ok to have that opinion? Or is there a double standards with NT's? You have no idea if I'm an NT or an Aspie. You're just going by what I think I am. And for those people here who are not diagnosed, are you going to tell them they are not Aspies? It shouldn't matter what I am, it's my opinion.


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18 Mar 2016, 9:05 pm

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nurseangela wrote:
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The Right has been sitting down for too long. It's time WE stood up and fought for this country. The Left keeps talking negatively about billionaire Trump when (according to the article in black and white) the Left is being funded by George Soros who is much richer than Trump. Any argument about the rich taking over this country and it is all the Republican's doing is BS. Soros funded the Occupy Movement before and he is now funding the Democracy Spring movement and there will be violence because that is what he wants. The little 78 yr old punching that guy is just the start of things to come.

There is really going to be an uprising from the Right if there is an Open Convention like what the Rhinos are saying they want - a force out of Trump and Cruz and the putting in of Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush who are not even in the race. There's going to be fighting from all sides - the Left against the Right, the Right against the current Republicans - A Civil War. I fully expect Martial Law to be started before the end of the year.


This isn't just YOUR country, other people live here too. Why is the nurse one of the more violent people on this forum?


You picked the wrong word - I'm not violent - I'm PASSIONATE - especially after what happened today. (See below)

Something that's on my mind - I did my taxes today and the tax man was telling me how much business they get in January from the people that are getting returns. He said the people that come in are the ones that don't pay anything into the system, but walk out with $7,000-10,000 refund. He said they don't have any checking accounts so they walk out with that big of a check and then down to Walmart and spend $6 to get it cashed and then are walking around with $7,000-10,000 pocket money. He said they usually have about 3-4 kids that they are getting the money back for. Isn't that just swell. Let's say that I'm in an even grumpier mood than usual.


Quit being a whiner and complainer. Accept that life is unfair. So, they get a $7000-$10,000, tough titties. Suck it up buttercup!


Buttercup? That sounds like a pet name. Are you making a pass at me? :mrgreen:


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18 Mar 2016, 9:10 pm

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And Kraftie, I agree totally. The person who did that needs to be in prison.

I agree. It needs to stop. I can't stand Trump and would be happy if he keeled over and died of natural causes, but threats on his life will just draw copycat retaliations and counter-threats until all hell breaks loose. This is the kind of stuff that happens in unstable third-world hellholes.



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18 Mar 2016, 9:11 pm

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That video is asking people to rise up against Trump and his "brown shirts". I do remember several saying that I'm wearing a brown shirt. That video is also saying that I'm a terrorist and that I have "white privilege". If you think the radical Left won't take off and run with this then you are in total denial. Democracy Spring is coming too. I guess we'll see what is to come.

If you support Trump you do support terrorism. Terrorism isn't just a Muslim thing. Killing innocent people for political purposes is the definition of terrorism. And he supports torture. Which is against US and international law. And he incites violence at his rallies. I agree with you that civil war is coming because people are too stupid to know what's going wrong. It's the long emergency, born of the mismanagement of resources, mostly energy. We squandered our wealth on a way of life with no future. We failed to prosecute those responsible for the recession. We spent billions on war and let our children struggle with unreasonable debt just to get an education. We put (mostly minority) fathers in jail because we cared more about appearing tough than the well being of families. It was all predictable. Now the masses look to a daddy figure on one side, and a mommy on the other.


I'm on the fence about the torture thing. Any American that gets into another country and imprisoned gets tortured. Just like that American in N Korea. And how about all the Americans that were beheaded? You sure don't want to be in a Mexican prison either. Why should the US be different? Then no one is going to be scared of us.


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18 Mar 2016, 9:15 pm

I believe we have to maintain the moral high ground, and adhere to the Geneva Convention.

The Geneva Convention's ideas were conceived with an eye towards increasing the moral sense of the world.

Trump's proposal pertaining to torture would reverse human progress, in my opinion.

Just because other countries don't want to adhere to the high standards of the Convention doesn't mean we should go down to their level.



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18 Mar 2016, 9:16 pm

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Hi, I'm dealing with it. Personal attacks are not OK and he has been sent a warning. We can still disagree while remaining civil to one another.


Yes marshall's reply was over the line. But how is it 'civil' to be on this forum and repeatedly go on about how people don't 'deserve' to be on disability? People here get that from everywhere else in the world and this is supposed to be a somewhat supportive place, not one where "pff depression .take meds and get back to work! Anyone with depression/anxiety/whatever can just be fixed. I've had X and i can work. So if they're not, they're just wanting to sit on their ass and eat bonbons while the rest of us pay for them. "

To me, those kind of repeated derisive, denigrating statements are almost as much of an attack as marshall's direct reply. Most people on disability - mental Or physical - would trade their personal hell in a minute in exchange for the ability to work.


And another thing, if I was diagnosed with Asperger's, would I then be ok to have that opinion? Or is there a double standards with NT's? You have no idea if I'm an NT or an Aspie. You're just going by what I think I am. And for those people here who are not diagnosed, are you going to tell them they are not Aspies? It shouldn't matter what I am, it's my opinion.



You seemingly ask a question and then start going off, having decided for yourself the answer - i only care what you say because of an asd dx. Oh, and i get on people here who don't have a dx..(as you can see in all zero of my posts).

Reality is i don't give a s**t of your dx, i only care about how you treat people - which of late (except for today) seems fiiled with bitterness and venom. And along with that, going on and on about people faking and -they- don't deserve disability (as you determined based on...never experiencing what they have) and how depression, anxiety, etc are all fully treatable and never bad enough to be disabling is as much an an attack on many people here as marshall's final words - regardless of your dx or lack thereof.

Or, if you want to call it an opinion? Then it's as much of an opinion as marshall's.


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18 Mar 2016, 9:17 pm

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I believe we have to maintain the moral high ground, and adhere to the Geneva Convention.

The Geneva Convention's ideas were conceived with an eye towards increasing the moral sense of the world.

Trump's proposal pertaining to torture would reverse human progress, in my opinion.

Just because other countries don't want to adhere to the high standards of the Convention doesn't mean we should go down to their level.


Do you know which countries don't follow it, Mr. K?


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18 Mar 2016, 9:20 pm

Many don't follow it.

But I believe in it. And I think we should follow it, even if other countries don't.

Otherwise, we lose all of our remaining moral authority.

Our moral authority is why we are able to assert our interests throughout the world.

If we lose that, we become just like any other country.



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18 Mar 2016, 9:26 pm

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nurseangela wrote:
100000fireflies wrote:
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Hi, I'm dealing with it. Personal attacks are not OK and he has been sent a warning. We can still disagree while remaining civil to one another.


Yes marshall's reply was over the line. But how is it 'civil' to be on this forum and repeatedly go on about how people don't 'deserve' to be on disability? People here get that from everywhere else in the world and this is supposed to be a somewhat supportive place, not one where "pff depression .take meds and get back to work! Anyone with depression/anxiety/whatever can just be fixed. I've had X and i can work. So if they're not, they're just wanting to sit on their ass and eat bonbons while the rest of us pay for them. "

To me, those kind of repeated derisive, denigrating statements are almost as much of an attack as marshall's direct reply. Most people on disability - mental Or physical - would trade their personal hell in a minute in exchange for the ability to work.


And another thing, if I was diagnosed with Asperger's, would I then be ok to have that opinion? Or is there a double standards with NT's? You have no idea if I'm an NT or an Aspie. You're just going by what I think I am. And for those people here who are not diagnosed, are you going to tell them they are not Aspies? It shouldn't matter what I am, it's my opinion.



You seemingly ask a question and then start going off, having decided for yourself the answer - i only care what you say because of an asd dx. Oh, and i get on people here who don't have a dx..(as you can see in all zero of my posts).

Reality is i don't give a s**t of your dx, i only care about how you treat people - which of late (except for today) seems fiiled with bitterness and venom. And along with that, going on and on about people faking and -they- don't deserve disability (as you determined based on...never experiencing what they have) and how depression, anxiety, etc are all fully treatable and never bad enough to be disabling is as much an an attack on many people here as marshall's final words - regardless of your dx or lack thereof.

Or, if you want to call it an opinion? Then it's as much of an opinion as marshall's.


I'm not going to treat people decently that call me names. Have several people call you some names and see how you deal with it. I recall you not acting very favorably when I bashed your Lord and master and what I said wasn't even against you personally. I have NEVER said one thing about you or this Marshall person that is personal name calling in any way and if you think what he said is ok then that says a lot about you. And I don't give a damn what you think either.

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18 Mar 2016, 9:30 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Many don't follow it.

But I believe in it. And I think we should follow it, even if other countries don't.

Otherwise, we lose all of our remaining moral authority.

Our moral authority is why we are able to assert our interests throughout the world.

If we lose that, we become just like any other country.


You make a good point. On the other hand, we aren't dealing with normal people with these other countries. They aren't afraid of us anymore. I don't even think of the US as still being a super power.


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18 Mar 2016, 9:33 pm

I'm worried about us losing prestige in the world.

We screwed it up ourselves in a lot of ways.

We're becoming just like any other nation.

I still feel we have to live in the international community, rather than be belligerent towards it.



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18 Mar 2016, 9:43 pm

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You seemingly ask a question and then start going off, having decided for yourself the answer - i only care what you say because of an asd dx. Oh, and i get on people here who don't have a dx..(as you can see in all zero of my posts).

Reality is i don't give a s**t of your dx, i only care about how you treat people - which of late (except for today) seems fiiled with bitterness and venom. And along with that, going on and on about people faking and -they- don't deserve disability (as you determined based on...never experiencing what they have) and how depression, anxiety, etc are all fully treatable and never bad enough to be disabling is as much an an attack on many people here as marshall's final words - regardless of your dx or lack thereof.

Or, if you want to call it an opinion? Then it's as much of an opinion as marshall's.

Disability bashing does far more damage than any name calling. I think sometimes there is a reason to show certain people how I really feel about them. Otherwise they never ever think about how their attitude affects people. If they don't care how their attitude affects people, then f**k them. I don't have to be polite. I don't have to respect them. Not when they don't respect me. I wouldn't be polite or respectful to nurseangela's face. I don't owe her s**t.