So when does being a 'leftist' become a crime?

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That bodes well then.

Not everyone is materialistic, this is a product of your environment. That is a byproduct of outdated economic systems. If humanity is to survive and avoid eventual collapse in civilized life we will need to adapt to a more sustainable economic system. A resource economy would be a viable choice, science and technology should be embraced not restricted.

It would be great if some new resource were discovered. That would give people something to do. Science and technology make the world, in general, better.
If North Americans made all the tech products that are currently made in China, that would provide work.

If we become a truly space faring species before our resources are drained we have a chance, but I don't hold much faith in humanity. But it's plausible. Otherwise, it's going to get much worse before it gets better. Assuming enough of us survive the downfall to create the next civilization.

Again, from my limited perspective. I honestly haven't read any financial information on the subject, but I have yet to hear anything about legalized pot having a negative effect here in Washington.

Do peole actually read what thye are relying to?
You asked: " If everyone could climb out of poverty who would be doing the minimum wage jobs?"
I replied that robots could.
They are in use now and will become more prolific over time. The telegraph made the pony express obsolete and put people out of jobs. Should we have halted technology and just to keep the pony express and save those jobs?

I was here three years before you. I can find threads where you said that I used to be more civil (civil meaning I didn't call you out on things I should have all along). If I were to find those threads it would make you a ______ (hint: It starts with an L) wouldn't it?


WOW! I once got a TOS for calling a real troll a troll. I could write pages on why you THINK I'm a troll or a bully complete with linked quotes (yours) and it wouldn't look good for you.

You were a little more enjoyable to spar with, because I detected a little humor behind your mean streak. But it was still a mean streak that was meant to be hurtful. Today, there is no humor with what you say, just slander and bile.
And sure, I readily admit to have posted things I regret. I've apologized for them, or explained the reasons for them. That's what you deduce to be backpedaling. At least I'm the bigger man to admit when I've stepped over the line.

I would think you would be in a better mood, Raptor, with the politics leaning the way it is in your country. Maybe in 10 years Oprah will be giving out "free guns for everybody."

Could we move away from the commentary and attacks on Raptor and back to the subject of the thread?

Attacks on Raptor?? Why didn't you speak up when Kraichgauer was snarked at multiple times?

Where were you?

I can't be everywhere at once, and nobody made any complaints about this thread until just now. I naturally assumed the issue was in the last few pages, where it certainly seemed that Raptor was getting the harder beating.

Reading the whole thread back and it's a pretty equal thing. I'm not going to post a blow-by-blow dissection but both parties seem roughly equally at fault.

Either way, can we move on from discussion of other users and stick to the issues? I know it's hard when this is hitting all the same notes that 200 other conversations have down the years but it's very frustrating for everyone else and I can't imagine it's much fun for those involved either.

I actually think Raptor and Kraichgauer are male-bonding, and should just go get a beer already!

If they didn't like each other underneath at all, I doubt that they would be arguing like this.

I'm not as liberal as you think I am. I'm in a bitchy mood right now, and I'm make John Bircher's look like panty waist liberals when I'm in one of those funks. (Just like my late, lamented mother. When she blew up, she was foul enough to make drunken Russian Sailors blush. It also didn't help that my brothers and I got our asses beaten to a pulp when she got that way.)

You, obviously, have never experienced the dogma of the so-called prosperity gospel. While it's mostly preached by televangelists like Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, and Pat Robertson, I know quite a few fundamentalist, as well as "mainline" pastors in my area locally that preach the same bilge. Case in point: I grew up in the Churches of God--General Conference. I stated elsewhere that I left because they flat out told me I was going to hell because of the music I was listening to. Well, in addition, my father was the congregational treasurer. Do you know how much help he got from them when he lay on his deathbed, 30 years ago? NOTHING! No financial help, no spiritual help, no emotional support from the church, or even his brothers or sisters! Ditto with my mother, and she's been gone 5 years. At least the Lutherans, and, to a lesser extent, the Catholics, are at least willing to lend a helping hand. The Amish are the same way, except they will only help those within their denomination. Ditto with the Mennonites, except they will reach out to the world through the Mennonite Central Committee.

In short, these churches will not come out and flat out say they think people are poor through their own fault. But, you look at the actions of its leaders, and their actions speak louder than words.

No, I think Kraichgauer is just going through that "change" they all go through at about that age. You know, the mood swings and hot flashes that we've witnessed evidence of here recently. Surely it'll pass in time...

Now, back to what we were trying to discuss before Kraichgauer ATTACKED me.

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