Trump Derangement Syndrome

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I find it curious that there is such hostility toward welfare in a community in which many members are on SSI or SSDI.

What would happen to people who rely on such income if welfare were suddenly eliminated?

They did a little experiment in this area in the UK that we could all learn from.

I understand there is a time and place for SSI, but a lot of people on it could also do work. I've had plenty of patients who fall into that category. People also feel better about themselves if they do have a job and help contribute something to society. They feel useful and needed. Unemployment just helps a person to become more depressed.

Unless one is totally debilitated, why should they not work?

I've also wondered end about that.I have no idea of the percentage of WP members that receive assistance,I know I receive it.People here already have the stigma of being different,then we get referred to as lazy mooches on top of it.Id suggest that the non autistic people who think it's so easy to get a job and keep it to do this little experiment.Turn on the tv loud enough to be annoying,then a radio,then put on the most uncomfortable itchy tight clothing you have,then make an important phone call where you have to pay attention, and do long division at the same time.Do it for eight hours.Thats what it like for some with sensory problems,it's just too much coming in.
What jobs does one suggest we do?
Then there actually has to be a job opening,an open minded employer willing to work with the disabilities.Sure some high functioning people have no problem finding a good job.Especially the tech savvy ,but they are a minority.
What would truly be nice if there were more work from home jobs.I'd be up for that,and I bet most people here would be.
I also wonder why people aren't mad at the doctors that help people get SSI.You don't just get it by asking.Most of the time an applicant needs a pile of medical documents that go back years.The majority of physicians are not going to write up phony papers for someone.
So instead of blaming the people that receive it,why not blame the doctors that make it possible?

a subset of the dunning-kreuger effect that people don't think about, is its corollary- very high functioning people all too often don't grok why lower functioning people can't just jerk themselves up by their own bootstraps or "cowboy up" and just magically "get with the NT program." they refuse to understand that some people just are not up to that task. i am beginning to think that it is a matter of them seeing people like us and being scared that they [the ones who say "i could NEVER end up like that!"] too could one day end up like us, so they attack us in anger for reminding them of that possibility. projection.

Everyone on SSI is not Aspie. A lot of Aspies here work in libraries. I work nights because I can't take the noise and people of days. It's a spectrum, right? NT's have some of the same anxiety symptoms, fibromyalgia pain, etc. Lots of Aspies here go to school and college. Most here are high functioning. I don't understand why people here are so quick to dismiss Aspies as not able to be productive in society. Several here are tons smarter than most NT's I have met. Maybe, I just choose to think a person is not disposable just because they have an affliction. To me, once a person is placed on SSI, society is pretty much saying that person is not necessary or needed. I prefer to keep hope in someone.

I'm not angry, but you're accusations that people like me who would like to see people better themselves are angry, pisses me off. So knock off the attitude.

I'm on SSI and I feel pathetic for being on it...but I can't get a job either...I feel stuck on SSI really.

sorry for not being on topic.

if you don't like my "attitude" then do not read my posts. simple as that.

considering that man's agenda, you are very ON-topic IMHO. no worries

So what you're saying is that you would feel better about yourself with a job. Unless a person is a para or quadriplegic, has a problem like schizophrenia, in severe pain, MS, cancer, medical conditions that are actually debilitating to a person, then there should be something that person can do in society.

Some of these jobs may not pay great - could that be the reason? Is SSI paying so well that people don't want to find a job? I know unemployment payments are like that.

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When you accuse people wrongly they will respond.

You might be on to something.One thing I've noticed growing older is its getting harder to be around people and not burn out.I don't really want to talk in the evening,and going to an event with lots of socializing just wears me out.Its not fun,even with people I like.That could be in the future for some of them,I think it's referred to as Aspie Burnout.
I peaked with being able to handle it late thirties.Now it's all downhill.Thank goodness for Internet shopping.I can get it all online except for a few things.

You must be talking about Obama.

i definitely had the aspie burnout, I was finished for several years, I could do nothing but sit like a lump and stare off into the distance. and when I have to make my frontal lobes do more around people, I get right back into that mess. i'm done.

many people such as myself are only on disability temporarily. sure, i could have stocked shelves, but my volunteer work was more fulfilling and valuable to society (teaching folks to read, reading the newspaper to the blind, teaching kids to swim, advocating for folks with mental illness.) had i been forced to stock shelves, i would have been demoralized and probably suicided. plus, i'd've not been able to afford my medicine and would have been in and out of hospital with resultant bankruptcy. stocking shelves is honorable work but would have been a horrible fit for me. luckily, the judge at my disability hearing had a heart.

You guys can believe what you want. I believe that Aspies can make something out of themselves. There are drugs to treat most symptoms. And those who think that work is just roses for NT's - that's incorrect. NT's can have mental disorders of anxiety, depression, chronic pain, adhd, a lot of conditions that can upset their activities of daily living. I don't think accepting SSI as the answer is going to help overall mental health. Just my two cents. I see plenty of people as patients on SSI who shouldn't be and most just accept it and are depressed.