03 Mar 2017, 11:32 pm
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
Im pretty sure half of them are what they refer to as "sock puppets", a different login, same person.
Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.
Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.
Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.
Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.
Haha if there's any two in PPR who seem similar in personality it's you and jrjones.
Nice!
Tu quoque - when critized you turn critizim back the other person to avoid addressing the concern.
This is what I've been talking about. You saying that you think I am real, is not criticism. Therefore I was not responding to criticism.
Therefore you once again misapplied a logical fallacy term and it was non sequitur - as usual.
I seems that you just read these off the yourlogicalfallacyis website and guess (usually incorrectly) which one applies.
I was critising a group of people of which you are a member and it is entirely possible that you have a sock puppet and are feeling defensive.
So your claim that I dont know what I am doing displays the limitation of how you view the interaction.
We are basically debating the same thing in each of our conversations: the nature of reality.
You are arguing for the side represented by trump. The side that says I believe this and reality should conform to my belief. I dont think you really believe that, but that is where youhave placed yourself. It is part of the reason you get so frustated when I drop a reality bomb on you.
I argue on the side that says reality is this and I should conform my beliefs to that.
Now, what fallicies will you use in response.
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
04 Mar 2017, 12:21 am
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
Im pretty sure half of them are what they refer to as "sock puppets", a different login, same person.
Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.
Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.
Ezra, Jacoby, adifferentname and Raptor all seem real. I wouldnt count on the rest.
Even so, they do all seem to jump on the bandwagon.
Haha if there's any two in PPR who seem similar in personality it's you and jrjones.
Nice!
Tu quoque - when critized you turn critizim back the other person to avoid addressing the concern.
This is what I've been talking about. You saying that you think I am real, is not criticism. Therefore I was not responding to criticism.
Therefore you once again misapplied a logical fallacy term and it was non sequitur - as usual.
I seems that you just read these off the yourlogicalfallacyis website and guess (usually incorrectly) which one applies.
I was critising a group of people of which you are a member and it is entirely possible that you have a sock puppet and are feeling defensive.
So your claim that I dont know what I am doing displays the limitation of how you view the interaction.
We are basically debating the same thing in each of our conversations: the nature of reality.
You are arguing for the side represented by trump. The side that says I believe this and reality should conform to my belief. I dont think you really believe that, but that is where youhave placed yourself. It is part of the reason you get so frustated when I drop a reality bomb on you.
I argue on the side that says reality is this and I should conform my beliefs to that.
Now, what fallicies will you use in response.
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
04 Mar 2017, 12:51 am
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
04 Mar 2017, 7:59 am
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
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04 Mar 2017, 10:37 am
04 Mar 2017, 11:49 pm
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
04 Mar 2017, 11:52 pm
Alliekit wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I see your
and raise you a
05 Mar 2017, 1:00 am
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
No claim. Just a statement. How you want to interpret it is up to you.
And I agree, your silly routine got old a long time ago.
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05 Mar 2017, 6:59 pm
05 Mar 2017, 7:37 pm
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
No claim. Just a statement. How you want to interpret it is up to you.
And I agree, your silly routine got old a long time ago.
claim
klām/
verb
1.
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
"he claimed that he came from a wealthy, educated family"
state·ment
ˈstātmənt/
noun
a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.
"do you agree with this statement?"
synonyms: declaration, expression of views/facts, affirmation, assertion, announcement, utterance, communication, proclamation, presentation, expounding
If you write something stupid or you cant keep up in a logic based discussion, dont get mad at me.
I have tried having a logical discussion with almost all of the asorted trolls, goblins and such.
Once it becomes clear you are not willing to stick to reality and logical relationships, my goal becomes disproving the logic and evidence.
And when you and others get upset, it is pretty funny, all of you preciscous little snowflakes with you alternative facts.
I am glad you agree with me, not sure what the other part of that sentence is refer
ng to.
05 Mar 2017, 11:28 pm
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
No claim. Just a statement. How you want to interpret it is up to you.
And I agree, your silly routine got old a long time ago.
claim
klām/
verb
1.
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
"he claimed that he came from a wealthy, educated family"
state·ment
ˈstātmənt/
noun
a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.
"do you agree with this statement?"
synonyms: declaration, expression of views/facts, affirmation, assertion, announcement, utterance, communication, proclamation, presentation, expounding
If you write something stupid or you cant keep up in a logic based discussion, dont get mad at me.
I have tried having a logical discussion with almost all of the asorted trolls, goblins and such.
Once it becomes clear you are not willing to stick to reality and logical relationships, my goal becomes disproving the logic and evidence.
And when you and others get upset, it is pretty funny, all of you preciscous little snowflakes with you alternative facts.
I am glad you agree with me, not sure what the other part of that sentence is refer
ng to.
Now here's the deal. You constantly display the attitude that everyone else is stupid, which comes out as you telling everyone how smart you are and patting yourself on the back, which is just simply boorish and kinda sad. But the problem is you don't actually display being as smart as you seem to think you are compared to others regarding content. You seem to rely upon your understanding of rhetoric based on structure rather than content. As in fixated on how something is said, rather than what is being said and then harp, carp and heckle over such particulars based on a clumsy understanding of them. And I find it ironic that you are such a sticker for structuring along those lines, but display poor diction, grammar and spelling. Basically you just come off as an antagonistic phony. Pure posturing. I say these things in the spirit of futile constructive criticism, rather than as an attack.
06 Mar 2017, 12:32 pm
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
No claim. Just a statement. How you want to interpret it is up to you.
And I agree, your silly routine got old a long time ago.
claim
klām/
verb
1.
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
"he claimed that he came from a wealthy, educated family"
state·ment
ˈstātmənt/
noun
a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.
"do you agree with this statement?"
synonyms: declaration, expression of views/facts, affirmation, assertion, announcement, utterance, communication, proclamation, presentation, expounding
If you write something stupid or you cant keep up in a logic based discussion, dont get mad at me.
I have tried having a logical discussion with almost all of the asorted trolls, goblins and such.
Once it becomes clear you are not willing to stick to reality and logical relationships, my goal becomes disproving the logic and evidence.
And when you and others get upset, it is pretty funny, all of you preciscous little snowflakes with you alternative facts.
I am glad you agree with me, not sure what the other part of that sentence is refer
ng to.
Now here's the deal. You constantly display the attitude that everyone else is stupid, which comes out as you telling everyone how smart you are and patting yourself on the back, which is just simply boorish and kinda sad. But the problem is you don't actually display being as smart as you seem to think you are compared to others regarding content. You seem to rely upon your understanding of rhetoric based on structure rather than content. As in fixated on how something is said, rather than what is being said and then harp, carp and heckle over such particulars based on a clumsy understanding of them. And I find it ironic that you are such a sticker for structuring along those lines, but display poor diction, grammar and spelling. Basically you just come off as an antagonistic phony. Pure posturing. I say these things in the spirit of futile constructive criticism, rather than as an attack.
Oh Ezra, you still dont get it. This will be a blow to your ego, but I dont care what you think.
I am not trying to convince you and all the other precsious little snowflakes of anything, you have proven yourselves immune to both logic and reality.
My goal is to make sure everyone else knows how illogical and divorced from reality your arguments and statements/claims actually are.
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06 Mar 2017, 1:01 pm
07 Mar 2017, 3:33 am
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
feral botanist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The problem for you is that your "bombs" are non sequitur duds. Which is hardly something for me to become frustrated over. Such immature ham-handed conduct only garners apathetic reproach. Your fallacy is posturing.
You never disappoint do you
Shoot the messenger
DNA
and
Tu quoque
I think at this point you are trying to be funny because I know you are smarter than that.
When a person is actually smart, they are told so by others. When a person is posturing, they essentially point out how smart they think they are on a regular basis.
I assume by this, you are claiming that i am constantly claiming I am intelligent?
Can you provided examples of where I have claimed this?
And the tu quoque s getting old, can you try something else
No claim. Just a statement. How you want to interpret it is up to you.
And I agree, your silly routine got old a long time ago.
claim
klām/
verb
1.
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
"he claimed that he came from a wealthy, educated family"
state·ment
ˈstātmənt/
noun
a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.
"do you agree with this statement?"
synonyms: declaration, expression of views/facts, affirmation, assertion, announcement, utterance, communication, proclamation, presentation, expounding
If you write something stupid or you cant keep up in a logic based discussion, dont get mad at me.
I have tried having a logical discussion with almost all of the asorted trolls, goblins and such.
Once it becomes clear you are not willing to stick to reality and logical relationships, my goal becomes disproving the logic and evidence.
And when you and others get upset, it is pretty funny, all of you preciscous little snowflakes with you alternative facts.
I am glad you agree with me, not sure what the other part of that sentence is refer
ng to.
Now here's the deal. You constantly display the attitude that everyone else is stupid, which comes out as you telling everyone how smart you are and patting yourself on the back, which is just simply boorish and kinda sad. But the problem is you don't actually display being as smart as you seem to think you are compared to others regarding content. You seem to rely upon your understanding of rhetoric based on structure rather than content. As in fixated on how something is said, rather than what is being said and then harp, carp and heckle over such particulars based on a clumsy understanding of them. And I find it ironic that you are such a sticker for structuring along those lines, but display poor diction, grammar and spelling. Basically you just come off as an antagonistic phony. Pure posturing. I say these things in the spirit of futile constructive criticism, rather than as an attack.
Oh Ezra, you still dont get it. This will be a blow to your ego, but I dont care what you think.
I am not trying to convince you and all the other precsious little snowflakes of anything, you have proven yourselves immune to both logic and reality.
My goal is to make sure everyone else knows how illogical and divorced from reality your arguments and statements/claims actually are.
Previous defensive replies from you indicate that you do care.
It's more like you're trying to convince yourself that you're a special snowflake set apart from all others as exemplified by continual posturing.
But all you're showing everyone is just a lot of posturing.
jrjones9933 wrote:
Seriously, these walls of nested snark turn everyone off on having a discussion. If you want a discussion here, please trim quotes.
Sure thing, sport.
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