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25 May 2019, 8:19 pm

I read my geology, too.

We are in a warm spell. Glaciers are melting.

It could be natural climactic variation. It could be man-made.

I criticize fanaticism—both left and right wing. If you put me into the “left wing” category, I will object.

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25 May 2019, 8:25 pm

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"Help, help! The liberals are trying to give me money! Help! Help! The liberals are trying to give me healthcare! Aaaaaaaaahhh!! Help help! The liberals are trying to stop global warming! Help help! The liberals are trying to protect me from mass shootings Aaaaaaahhh!"

Those naughty liberals at it again LOL!

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25 May 2019, 8:26 pm

The UK hasn’t been connected to North America for at least 100 million years.

The big land mass like 300 million years ago is called Godwanaland.

The Bering Land Bridge is a more recent phenomenon. The “bridge” went underwater about 10,000 years ago. Because the climate became warmer.

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25 May 2019, 9:24 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Pepe wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

a snake oil salesman just wants my money and trust, an ahole OTOH just wants to crap all over me.

Boy, you are all sunshine, puppies and kittens these days.
What's happening in your life?
I don't remember you being like this not so long ago.

He’s been this way since 2016 he burnt our friendship over it.

Not to me, he hasn't. Blabby is a cool guy, and very wise.

You did it to me too. It’s cool I’m glad you two showed your real selfs, lets people know who their real friends are.

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I was a bad friend.

Attacking trump voters and calling us stupid, nazi bigots does.

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25 May 2019, 9:32 pm

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“We all know that Earth used to look very different in the geological past, but few would imagine that Europe was such a different place just 8,000 years ago. Back then, continental Europe was connected to the UK with a land mass called Doggerland. The area had a thriving history both for wildlife or for humans before it got flooded and met its current fate – flooded by hundreds of meters of water.”

“Some 20,000 years ago, the sea level started to rise as the climate warmed. The water covered more and more of the land mass, but even so, Doggerland still existed. Even with the continuous warming, 12,000 years ago, the area was a tundra, host to typical species, but also several human populations. As a matter of fact, some areas around Doggerland were very good locations for both animals and humans.”

“But as the climate continued to warm up, sea levels continue to rise, and the people slowly started losing their hunting and gathering grounds. The most rapid rises of sea level were on the order of three to six feet a century, but because of the variable topography of the land, the flooding was not even. The British Isles were neither British nor Isles. They were simply highlands.”

Sound familiar? Sounds just like global warming . So maybe the earth just never stopped warming up. Wonder if people in doggerland ran around screaming global warming too.

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25 May 2019, 9:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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It's armed conflict that has created refugees

You don't think increased natural disasters, famine, maybe even dwindling land mass won't lead to armed conflict?

Supporting terrorists and armed thugs will. Selling weapons to brutal dictatorships will. Stealing people's resources will. More important than the sun making the earth warmer.

Yes, all those things are proven to cause refugees and violence. But catastrophic climate change can potentially cause as much harm, or more.

Enjoy paying more taxes.

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25 May 2019, 10:39 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

It's armed conflict that has created refugees

You don't think increased natural disasters, famine, maybe even dwindling land mass won't lead to armed conflict?

Supporting terrorists and armed thugs will. Selling weapons to brutal dictatorships will. Stealing people's resources will. More important than the sun making the earth warmer.

Yes, all those things are proven to cause refugees and violence. But catastrophic climate change can potentially cause as much harm, or more.

Enjoy paying more taxes.

Not paying taxes is better than massive global extinction?!?!?!

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25 May 2019, 10:42 pm

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Pepe wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

a snake oil salesman just wants my money and trust, an ahole OTOH just wants to crap all over me.

Boy, you are all sunshine, puppies and kittens these days.
What's happening in your life?
I don't remember you being like this not so long ago.

He’s been this way since 2016 he burnt our friendship over it.

Not to me, he hasn't. Blabby is a cool guy, and very wise.

You did it to me too. It’s cool I’m glad you two showed your real selfs, lets people know who their real friends are.

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I was a bad friend.

Attacking trump voters and calling us stupid, nazi bigots does.

Sure, not all Trump voters are "stupid, Nazi bigots," but unfortunately they enable those who are, especially when they remain silent about those kind of Trump supporters, or when they deny that such people actually exist in significant numbers.

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26 May 2019, 2:00 am

The British Isles is still only about 40 miles or so from continental Europe at its closest point to it. From about Dover to about Calais.

I’m not an absolute believer that “global warming” is man-made. But the Earth, on average, is getting warmer—whatever the cause of this.

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26 May 2019, 8:40 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

It's armed conflict that has created refugees

You don't think increased natural disasters, famine, maybe even dwindling land mass won't lead to armed conflict?

Supporting terrorists and armed thugs will. Selling weapons to brutal dictatorships will. Stealing people's resources will. More important than the sun making the earth warmer.

Yes, all those things are proven to cause refugees and violence. But catastrophic climate change can potentially cause as much harm, or more.

Enjoy paying more taxes.

Not paying taxes is better than massive global extinction?!?!?!

Global extinction :lol:

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26 May 2019, 12:09 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

It's armed conflict that has created refugees

You don't think increased natural disasters, famine, maybe even dwindling land mass won't lead to armed conflict?

Supporting terrorists and armed thugs will. Selling weapons to brutal dictatorships will. Stealing people's resources will. More important than the sun making the earth warmer.

Yes, all those things are proven to cause refugees and violence. But catastrophic climate change can potentially cause as much harm, or more.

Enjoy paying more taxes.

Not paying taxes is better than massive global extinction?!?!?!

Global extinction :lol:

It's come close to it for most animal species at least seven times in the earth's history - unless you think the earth is only a few thousand years old.

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26 May 2019, 12:46 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

My stance is that with current technology adapting to climate change is a lot more feasible than trying to reverse it. We do need alternative energy sources, but currently even our renewable sources trace back to fossil fuels in one way or another.

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26 May 2019, 3:20 pm

The man made global warming thing is a conspiracy theory.

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26 May 2019, 3:21 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

The man made global warming thing is a conspiracy theory.

How can you be sure?

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26 May 2019, 3:48 pm

There’s evidence....lots of it.....for warmer global temperatures, on average, over the past 20 years.

Whether it’s man-made...perhaps yes, perhaps no.

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26 May 2019, 3:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

There’s evidence....lots of it.....for warmer global temperatures, on average, over the past 20 years.

Whether it’s man-made...perhaps yes, perhaps no.

I’m not sure one way or the other, either, although I think that making conscious environmental choices couldn’t hurt.

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