America is NOT a Racist Country.

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"White privilege doesn't exist!"

"Even if it DID exist, it's no big deal!"

"Even if it IS a big deal, it's not the WORST thing!"

"Even if it IS the worst thing, it happens all the time, and people still survive and thrive!"

Well, if white privilege doesn't exist, AND it's no big deal, then why do people try to deny it's existence so very hard? If it's not real, AND no big deal, why worry about it, or the people talking about it? It's not real, so there's no point in arguing it, AND it's no big deal, so there's no point in getting into it.

And yet, despite being not-real, AND no big deal, any time someone mentions it, someone else has to jump all over it and try to smother it like they're desperately trying to stop a fire from spreading. Pretty intense reaction for something that's no big deal, AND not even real - freaking out over other people's unimportant imaginary fires

And if it's about revenge, revenge for what? If america is totally fair, and absolutely NOT racist, then what are people complaining about? If they have the same opportunities, why would things seem unfair? Oh right, the old trope that "they're just lazy", and "don't want to work", etc. They've been TOLD and TAUGHT to think that way. That they just want a free handout, and blame "racism" rather than just working harder. But taught by whom? And why? Yes! Taught by WOKE LIBERALS so they can USE minorities as their MINIONS! But why? For what reason? Of course! World domination! Shadow armies! FASCIST THOUGHT CONTROL! Global conspiracies! LIZARD PEOPLE!! !

But america, the nation literally built by slavery, by a culture historically known for promoting itself as "da best", is maybe still kinda racist? ThAtS cRaZy TaLk!

America is more racist than it wants to admit. White privilege is the fact white people apparently get to decide whether or not white privilege exists. Oh? Some POC also say white privilege doesn't exist? Great. Cool. A LOT of other POC say it does exist. And who decides whether we listen to the majority of POC (and white people themselves) who say white privilege is real, or the few POC who say it isn't? White people do. White people get to decide whether white privilege is real, and white people get to decide which POC get listened to and which get ignored. Thousands of POC say racism and white privilege is real, they get ignored - but candice owens says it isn't real, and it's like a FACTS bomb, BOOM, she said it isn't real, case closed! And who decided her words were valid? White people, deciding that white privilege isn't real. How convenient!

"But white people have bad things happen to them, too!" Yes, and sometimes dolphins get caught in fishing nets, that doesn't change the fact that the net was still designed for FISH. The fact that certain laws were designed to work against POC doesn't mean they can effect white people, too.

Racism isn't a big evil light switch, that's either "off", and you're utterly devoid of racism and love everyone exactly equally, or "on", in which case you actively hate anyone who is a different color than you. Racism can be as simple as actually believing things like "black people don't feel pain the same way as white people", which to be fair, is not a moral judgement, but DOES still effect how POC would be treated. People do believe this, and it's often cited as an excuse for things ranging from justifying excessive force against POC being detained by police, to denying medical care due to dismissing the patient's symptoms.

Racism can be as simple as "innocently" believing in any of the "differences" that have been invented over the course of history, that supposedly exist between white people, and non-whites. Anglo culture has made it a point to call other "lesser" nations "savages" or "monkeys" or similar at nearly every turn for the last several hundred years. Anglo culture has gone out of it's way to try to "prove" it's natural superiority over other races, often by touting "progress" or "advancement" of some type. Especially if that advancement was weaponry.

America may not "be racist" insofar as not waving banners around that say "WE ARE OFFICIALLY RACIST!" followed by a list of races they officially declare hatred of - but a sizeable amount of american culture is built upon the ideas of white / anglo superiority, and while time has allowed some people to conveniently ignore that fact, the ideas of the past still linger strongly in today's culture.

In some cases (including posters on this very site) that bias is rather explicit.

Yes it seems hard to accept (for many) that "covert racism" has been deciphered a long time ago.

CRT Rule number 1 is that only those on the receiving end of racism are the only ones who can validly speak about their experiences/feelings. Those who never experience racism are not in a position to speak about something they have never experienced, Infact that's the whole problem, old white men in suites decide what is racist.

This isn't unique to CRT. The idea that "if you haven't experienced it, you really don't personally know what it's like" is a valid argument. Like people who don't have autism or tourette who decide that they know what it must be like to have them. If you've never been homeless, you don't really know what it's like to be homeless. And in a system that has unfair rules, if those rules aren't directed at you, you're not likely to experience them. And when something never happens to you, and only happens to other people, it's not hard to invent some rationalization as to why they "earned" or "deserved" that difference. Nobody likes to admit that a system is unfair, either cos it might be unfair to them someday, or cos it might be unfair in their favor, and that might make them a bad person.

Even simpler than that is the idea that "you don't get to decide how other people see you", which means that there are some things that you don't get to decide for yourself. Whether or not someone is likeable or unlikable really depends on what other people think. It doesn't matter how likeable YOU THINK you are, other people have their own opinions - and if people find you unlikeable, you are, by definition, unlikeable, cos people don't like you. You can't really call yourself likeable, if nobody likes you. The narcissistic approach would be to say "I AM likeable! Everyone ELSE is just a HATER!"

But it goes even further than that. It's not just a matter of "if you haven't experienced it, you have no business talking about it" - it's a matter of deciding which voices count and which voices don't, and who gets to decide that. I mean, it should be obvious that if someone is experiencing unfair treatment, you should ask THEM about it first, since they kinda would know best, having directly experienced it. But when POC collectively say "Yes! We've experienced racism!", they get dismissed. Yet is a single POC says "I haven't experienced racism", and that gets treated like a message from god, irrefutable evidence that racism doesn't exist, cos ONE POC says they didn't experience it. And who decided which voices were right? White people. POC spoke for themselves, and the majority say they have. But white people decide that nope, we're just going to listen to THOSE POC. The few that agree with us, not the majority that disagree.

Critical Race Theory isn't some convoluted alternate reality. It's just an attempt of some white people to get their heads out of their arses, and leave behind the old ideas of "inherent racial differences". Dumb ideas that still live today like "SOME brains just can't handle higher thought" or "they're just naturally lazy" or "they don't feel pain the same way" - usually framed as "these are just FACTS, not judgements!" But they really aren't FACTS, they're propaganda that was used to justify treating them as sub-human. "They NEED to be controlled and told what to do, for their own good! We just want to HELP them! To use them for free labor keep them out of trouble!"

Fast forward to today, where do "dangerous" or "troublesome" POC get sent? Prison. What do they do with all those prisoners? Free labor. Funny that...

Con-men and swindlers tend to become outraged when you mess with their hustle. Disrupting the status quo of causal racism we have here in america would cost a LOT of people a LOT of money.

From the Cornerstone Speech on the justification of the Confederacy
Savannah, Georgia, March 21, 1861
By Alexander H. Stephens

If you want to read the whole text: Cornerstone speech

Well, some members of the GOP should read this. No wonder they are wary of CRT.

Answer: Old white men in suits

Wow, that's heavy!
Learning history is really useful to understand where we are.

I don't see how this proves anything.

Alexander Stephens was the VP of the Confederacy (which no longer exists)

He makes a reference to the "Anti-slavery fanatic" in the United States. (a non-racist country?)

The GOP was formed to abolish slavery.

Please for the love of God don't tell me about how the parties switched being racists. Its been de-bunked and grows sooo tiresome.

And the Civil War was followed by segregation until the 1970s. Same philosophy. It was the mid-20th century Democrats working for civil rights around that time that changed Federal law that ended segregation. That was also the time that anti-miscegenation laws were being changed--laws banning interracial marriage (you know, laws that are racist). I believe Alabama still has anti-miscegenation in their Constitution, while most States have repealed that.

And lets be clear, not everyone in the Union was against slavery. So, yes, racism was alive in the North.

The Republicans were an abolitionist part in the 1800s. Sorry, you are having a hard time with facts, but the Southern Democrats, also known as the Dixiecrats, did morph into the Republican party (around the mid 20th century with the Civil Rights movement). Which is why you now find Republicans now introducing voter suppression bills targeted at minorities and attacking things like the Voting Rights bill. The Reagan Southern strategy was clearly using racist dog whistles to bring in the Southern vote. And there was a clear white supremacist backing for Trump, who certainly played to that demographic. Sure Lincoln and Trump came under the same party name, but the supporters were waving very different flags.

And your own hometown is complicit in a racial attack in 1921, Tulsa Race Massacre. They are just starting to discuss reparations. Naturally, you must support reparations because the US is no longer a racist country (?)

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Americans certainly seem to believe America has significant problems with racism with only one major outlier.

So which party is racist? Probably the
One that wrote the Jim Crow laws not the one that abolished slavery.

Probably the one who's base still marches under the flag of the pro-slavery traitors.
Which sadly is the same party that also abolished slavery.

But of course there's still crazies who insist that no 'party flip' occurred regardless of how overwhelmingly obvious it is that a flip did occur.

Absolutely, in the middle of the 1800s. You might find that people and their beliefs are flexible, regardless of the name of the political party. Political parties change as well as their policies. BTW, both parties have put in racist policies.

Have you ever read any American history?

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The "party flip" occurred about 1900 or so----because of the Republican's stance on the "gold standard" and the Democrat's desire for "free silver." It had a lot to do with monetary policy. The Republicans were more conservative in that respect.

The southern Democrats didn't make the "flip" until the 1970s.