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28 Feb 2022, 3:14 pm

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We have been on an increasingly accelerated trjaectory towards predatory capitalism since the 1980's in Britain.

All capitalism is predatory capitalism, capitalism has been plenty predatory for the entire time it has existed because that's it's very nature. That trajectory accelerated because even supposedly "left wing" parties bought into the idea that "pro-market" or "pro-business" policies (aka neoliberal) are always the solution to economic concerns.

If you start undoing reforms intended on addressing failures of capitalism you'll end up seeing those failures re-emerge. This will play out as you describe, but the problem is structural and that's why minor reforms are unlikely to achieve their desired goals.

The game seems to be to offer inadequate reform, see it fail and then undo it and insist that's proof reform can't work so we need to just let the invisible hand fix things.

I do not agree, respectfully.

I believe that about 34% of capitalism & 66% socialism is a perfect mix.

People want to achieve and be rewarded for their hard work, genius, intelligence & creativity.

Not everyone is equal.

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28 Feb 2022, 3:16 pm

^ I'll add to that, that it is human greed that ruins capitalism, capitalism isn't a bad thing in & of itself.

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28 Feb 2022, 3:24 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:

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We have been on an increasingly accelerated trjaectory towards predatory capitalism since the 1980's in Britain.

Every economy is a mixed economy in practice, it's not as though market relations would cease to exist at all within a largely socialist economy; but I think the idea of trying to assign percentages makes no sense at all because they offer no insights into what actual policies one might prefer, what exactly one's economic rights might be or how they're assured.

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28 Feb 2022, 3:25 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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We have been on an increasingly accelerated trjaectory towards predatory capitalism since the 1980's in Britain.

That was just a simplification. Obviously things are a lot more complex than that.

I just meant 66% of wealth being distributed & 34% being the profits of the business class is an ideal state, for me, anyway.

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28 Feb 2022, 8:29 pm

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04 Mar 2022, 1:50 pm

This is Wagner Group, one of the Russian forces operating in Ukraine.

They're legitimately a neo-nazi organization. If you think those guys are interested in de-nazification of anything you might want to reconsider the propaganda you've absorbed.