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24 Aug 2021, 8:22 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

I believe Big Pharma denies us a cure for cancer. I won't donate any money to cancer fundraisers.

It's partly PTSD, but I just won't.

I have a couple of friends who believe this as well, but what makes people think there is a cure, or has there ever been any evidence of a cure out there?

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24 Aug 2021, 8:24 pm

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Hoookayyyyy....

Leseee....

I believe that...

BOTH of these things happened

The Moon landing was faked in 1969, and

That the Philadelphia Experiment really happened in the middle of WWII in circa 1943.

The Government is covering up the fact that we are ...more primitive than you think we are ( we didnt really have the technology to land a man on the Moon in 1969, and still dont have that).

AND the government is covering up the fact that we are MORE ADVANCED than you think we are, by covering up the fact the US Navy was able to get a 2000 ton Navy destroyer to travel in time. :lol:

The moon trip (which was based upon physics discovered by Newton 300 years ago) is beyond us, but..almost 80 years ago we had the ability to send a 2000 ton warship several days back in time based upon physics that hasnt been invented yet (when the best the hadron collider at Cern can do today in the direction of time travel to is get subatomic particles to age and decay a little more slowly than normal).

How's that?

Two contradictory conspiracies!

Do I win the "Bat s**t Award" for crazy, or what?

If you think it was faked, how would it have been faked though?

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25 Aug 2021, 1:48 am

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SabbraCadabra wrote:

[...] that Mississippi Skunk Ape video is kind of scary. I wonder if it's an ape that escaped from a zoo or something. [...]

Never let YouTube videos do your thinking for you.

Dunno what you're talking about, you even quoted the part where I am questioning what he actually filmed.

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25 Aug 2021, 8:55 am

SabbraCadabra wrote:

Fnord wrote:

SabbraCadabra wrote:

[...] that Mississippi Skunk Ape video is kind of scary. I wonder if it's an ape that escaped from a zoo or something. [...]

Never let YouTube videos do your thinking for you.

Dunno what you're talking about, you even quoted the part where I am questioning what he actually filmed.

Good point. I am so fed up with all this "cryptozoology" nonsense that threads like this trigger the same response.

Besides, "Never let YouTube videos do your thinking for you" is good advice for anyone.

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25 Aug 2021, 1:55 pm

Fnord wrote:

SabbraCadabra wrote:

Fnord wrote:

SabbraCadabra wrote:

[...] that Mississippi Skunk Ape video is kind of scary. I wonder if it's an ape that escaped from a zoo or something. [...]

Never let YouTube videos do your thinking for you.

Dunno what you're talking about, you even quoted the part where I am questioning what he actually filmed.

How can self contradictory gibberish be good advice?

You know full well that Utube doesnt do anyone's thinking for them. Every time you post that phrase you're just dumping into your pants in public. So why do you keep saying it?

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25 Aug 2021, 2:02 pm

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If you think it was faked, how would it have been faked though?

I DONT think it was faked. That was kinda my point.

Salad was inviting us to put forth a conspiracy theory that...we ourselves consider "crazy".

So its an odd request (like were supposed to present a theory but also admit that its crazy). So I was joking around by citing two (of what I consider to be) very unlikely to be true conspiracy theories (both of which are circulated) - and further - both (seem to me) to be CONTRADICTORY (that the powers that be are telling two contradictory lies- suppressing that we are more advanced than you think, AND that we are LESS advanced than you think at the same time) to make the joke that I now "win the crazy award".

And I have met at least one person online who actually does believe both theories( the ship time traveling and the moon landing being faked).

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25 Aug 2021, 10:15 pm

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I am so fed up with all this "cryptozoology" nonsense that threads like this trigger the same response.

I would like to believe some of it exists...I mean, they're discovering new species all of the time (mostly aquatic)...but something like sasquatch, you would think someone would've found skeletal remains or something by now.

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25 Aug 2021, 10:39 pm

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IsabellaLinton wrote:

I believe Big Pharma denies us a cure for cancer. I won't donate any money to cancer fundraisers.

It's partly PTSD, but I just won't.

I have a couple of friends who believe this as well, but what makes people think there is a cure, or has there ever been any evidence of a cure out there?

To many, I believe, it comes down to the fact that finding (or having been found, releasing) a cure provides a much smaller (and limited) income than leaving people on long-term medication - Many consider Big Pharma take a similar approach with other diseases as well.

Others, similarly believe that many organisations (and in some cases, governments) have the ability to eradicate that which they claim to stand against, yet prolong it (or try to change definitions to make the issue appear more serious\prevalent than it really is) in order to justify their\their program's existance.

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26 Aug 2021, 3:55 am

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IsabellaLinton wrote:

I believe Big Pharma denies us a cure for cancer. I won't donate any money to cancer fundraisers.

It's partly PTSD, but I just won't.

I have a couple of friends who believe this as well, but what makes people think there is a cure, or has there ever been any evidence of a cure out there?

Oh okay, but it just seems like that is nothing more than a theory, and there is no actual evidence of a cure though, is there?

Plus also, inventors who invent things do not go by this reasoning at all. The pharmaceutical companies would have to pay the people who invented to cure for cancer to keep their mouths shut about it, and this never happens for inventors. For example the people who invented the airplane didn't say to themselves "well we can just have the bus and train companies pay us off to never release the airplane and we can just milk money out of them".

Or the people who invented the light bulb didn't say "let's blackmail lantern companies out of money by holding the lightbulb over their heads as a threat". They just released the lightbulb anyway to make money off of.

Or how uber could have blackmailed taxi companies out of money, but they decided to go ahead with their own business anyway. I just never heard of inventors blackmailing the market to pay them off, to never release their invention. All inventors want to release their inventions to make money off of, rather than rely on the market to pay them to keep quiet about it.

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26 Aug 2021, 4:19 am

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ironpony wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

I believe Big Pharma denies us a cure for cancer. I won't donate any money to cancer fundraisers.

It's partly PTSD, but I just won't.

I have a couple of friends who believe this as well, but what makes people think there is a cure, or has there ever been any evidence of a cure out there?

Oh okay, but it just seems like that is nothing more than a theory, and there is no actual evidence of a cure though, is there?

Well, we are in a thread discussing "conspiracy theories" aren't we...

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Plus also, inventors who invent things do not go by this reasoning at all. The pharmaceutical companies would have to pay the people who invented to cure for cancer to keep their mouths shut about it, and this never happens for inventors. For example the people who invented the airplane didn't say to themselves "well we can just have the bus and train companies pay us off to never release the airplane and we can just milk money out of them".

Or the people who invented the light bulb didn't say "let's blackmail lantern companies out of money by holding the lightbulb over their heads as a threat". They just released the lightbulb anyway to make money off of.

Or how uber could have blackmailed taxi companies out of money, but they decided to go ahead with their own business anyway. I just never heard of inventors blackmailing the market to pay them off, to never release their invention. All inventors want to release their inventions to make money off of, rather than rely on the market to pay them to keep quiet about it.

The difference is that the "inventor" at a pharmaceutical company doesn't "own" anything related to what they "invent" (generally), with patents, etc. being owned by the company if they were produced as part of their work (exceptions, as in other businesses) would need to be part of the employee's contract...And clauses preventing employees discussing their work (even after leaving their employment there), and how would anyone know?

And [puts on tin-foil hat] Big Pharma don't even need to find a cure - they can merely have management strategically direct where research looks: this looks like it might have the potential to go somewhere - Let's look at this instead which we "heard" our "competition" saying they had promosing research around... Or just move "key" staff to different research groups\projects (or promote them out of their project role). [removes tin-foil hat]

Of course, Big Pharam would never do a thing like that - It would be almost as bad as re-patenting drugs to prevent other manufacturers being able to produce "generic" equivalents to help customers save money...

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26 Aug 2021, 4:22 am

Oh okay, but even if big pharma does that, what's to stop some scientific geniuses outside of big pharma, from manufacturing and marketing a cure though?

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26 Aug 2021, 4:50 am

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Oh okay, but even if big pharma does that, what's to stop some scientific geniuses outside of big pharma, from manufacturing and marketing a cure though?

Its takes millions of dollars and years of time and effort just to get a medication to market generally speaking.The said scientfic genius would have to have access to tens if not hundreds of millions to even have a shot at making it.

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26 Aug 2021, 5:01 am

That's a good point, but inventors always want to get their inventions out there. Throughout history, the greatest inventions were not subject to being payed off by others to keep quiet about it. So that's what make it hard to swallow for me, is that the inventors could completely swallow their pride, and accept the pay offs at an unquestionable level.

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26 Aug 2021, 5:18 am

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Imagine you have a "treatment" that brings in $1 per year per patient, and it requires lifelong use.

At what price would you set a proposed "cure", knowing it will be a fixed, not recurring, income stream?

How many years of equivalent "treatment" should the company "value" it at?
1 year =$1
5 years = $5
10 years = $10
25 years = $25

Now, replace the "$1 per year" with more "appropriate" numbers:

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Most cancer drugs launched between 2009 and 2014 were priced at more than $100,000 per patient for one year of treatment. More recently, we’ve seen launch prices of more than $400,000 for a year of treatment.

Source: https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2018/presidents-cancer-panel-drug-prices

Taking 5 years as an example: Do you think a "one-off", up-front $500,000 - $2,000,000 price per patient would be seen favourably (particularly at quantity) by society, compared to a smaller, annual price?

And do you think a company (which is after profits) is going to price a "cure" at less than what they might expect from annualised "treatments"?

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26 Aug 2021, 5:35 am

But there are other medications out there that do this. For example, look at antibiotics. Why didn't they just withhold that and make more money other ways?

But also, my best friend died of cancer, so I spent time researching it, because I was obsessed to learn more about it once she had it.

But in my research it seemed that you can't cure it because it does too much demage. Curing cancer with a drug, is like the equivalent of taking antibiotics to cure a spinal fracture in comparison. It just can't be cured.

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26 Aug 2021, 4:06 pm

Inventions: Vapour Automotive carburetors . Such as Mr Pogue , inventor of one of the vapour carburetors getting huge miles per gallon while in service . Then in the early days of Ford Tractor , they also had a working and sold Vapour carburetors on their early tractors.
In these days of fossil fuel shortages and smog. .makes a person wonder about these things .

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