Should conservative Christians be persecuted?

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In short, my answer is 'no', instead they should be used by The Great Cat God as cat toys.

I understand losing respect for someone with such arguments, I suppose that was insulting and ridiculous at the same time.

Last edited by greenblue on 29 Aug 2007, 10:41 pm, edited 2 times in total.

What is your point?

They could change the legal age to 17, they could change it to 16.
It'll never go as low as 6, or 8 etc though.

Yeah, that is why I asked him what point he was trying to make. Doesn't seem a good analogy.

My point is that Sopho claimed legality as why homosexuality should be approved of and that pedo group should not. Well, first of all, if you claim legality as your definition of right and wrong, then gay marriage would still be truly wrong in most countries. She didn't have a comeback for that.

Yes, she did and it's called CONSENT. Not only in the legal sense, but also in the medical, psychological and moral sense, yes I said moral, I have an idea what are you going to say, but it is inmoral because children are being HURT, and all the problems that carries to them, etc. There are reasons why it is illegal. Consenting relationships between two adult homosexuals do not damage anyone, the only thing that it does is that it contradicts religious dogma, and that is all.

And by the way there were no laws that protected children from sexual or any other type of abuse, like physical abuse in the society and the time where Jesus lived, the laws from the Bible didn't protect them from any kind of abuse, and that is interesting. I suppose the terms abuse and consent didn't exist in those days, did they? and it seems it was allowed, that is something to think about, some things that I thought actually which added to my doubts and confusion.

Gay marriage is neither here nor there anyway. What should count is their RELATIONSHIP between each other. A piece of paper in a lot of case means Jack-shit, as long as the people involved feel good in their closeness, so what? Paedophilia, on the other hand is a CRIMINAL act, and sex with minors (or children) is just plain sick. I personally don't care what same sex couples do in their personal lives, it's when they make an issue out of things that gets annoying. Same goes for religious groups, or politician or whatever. They talk about respect for their behaviour or beliefs, but when it comes to the privacy of others, they don't seem to give a stuff. Most same-sex couples probably don't give a stuff about this 'marriage' issue anyway, it's just some would prefer everyone to know their business, which is probably why other people get turned off.

What?
I had a 'comeback' for everything you said. I don't know what you're talking about here though.

Hmm, well thanks. Although I'm against alot of things as somewhat socially conservative. I think that certain things should always be frowned upon. Recreational drug use, yobbery and lack of respect, religious cults, that sort of thing. Do I still get the award?

The PARAKEET award is yours still!

It's people like raggy who supported burning witches at the stake. Ironically, if he were alive back then as an aspie, they would have likely called him a witch and burned him at the stake.

Raggy, the first amendment means all religions are equally equal, not that YOUR religion is MORE equal than everyone elses. Get the f**k over it. I honestly don't have much of a position on abortion rights outside of abortion cleansing, but it IS a religious issue, therefore if you think it's right to pass a law on something because of your religious bias, then you are about an anti-American as a person can be. Oh wait, the raggy redneck america vision, a flag without stars but rather with a swastika.
Dude you can believe in a flying spaghetti monster if you want to, but you don't have the right to make laws on it that are inforced on secular society. That is not America.
By the way, why don't you just come out and admit you hate asians, arabs, and basically anyone who isn't white? I mean isn't this theocracy crap a mask for hating people from different cultures?

Well we already know you hate gays.... Lets take the raggy method and kill off anyone who'se different from raggy

For? What if the same happened to Atheists? No particular group should be hunted down and slaughtered. It's called Genocide.

You're supporting the same thing that happened to the Jews. Never forget World War II. Never forget what people did in the face of tyranny and evil. God help us if it ever happens again.

I think that Christianity does make a stand against alot of what is wrong with this world, but the oppression and condemnation of homosexuals should stop. But fine by me if Christians take a religious viewpoint against it, so long as it isn't violent or hateful. They have their freedom of belief.

Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

I wasn't being serious.
And you don't need to tell me not to forget WWII. Most of the next two years of my life will be spent focusing on it. I also know what genocide is. I also know that everyone has freedom of belief. I don't give a f**k what people believe. They shouldn't have the freedom to inflict their delusional beliefs on sane people though.