Fnord wrote:
Here's a Bible quote for you: ..
Thank you.. thank you.. I love Bible quotes..

John the Apostle wrote:
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
Yes.. you are so right.. I mean God is sooo right.
I mean.. Oh dear.. you.. God..... what's the difference (sigh).
Anyway.. on a more serious note..
It is interesting how the Throne symbol in Revelation.. makes a connection.. to the Book of Isaiah..
It's not easy to miss.. I'm sure the pope will confirm this.
My reasoning is.. if.. a Spirit is coming from God's Throne.. then it must be from God......... symbolically speaking.. of course.
(("but test the spirits to see whether they are from God"))
So.. would these bible verses.. pass the test.. I wonder..?
Will they get a M.O.T.
(He asks.. hopefully)
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"And I saw standing in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures and in the midst of the elders a lamb as though it had been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, which eyes mean the Seven Spirits of God that have been sent forth into the whole earth."
"And out of the throne there are proceeding lightnings and voices and thunders; and there are seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, and these mean the Seven Spirits of God."
Book of Revelation 5:6 & 4:5
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Then.. returning to my original point..
Could the Spirit of Loving kindness.. Righteousness.. Justice.. Wisdom.. Peace.. Truth.. and freedom.. be the same Seven Spirits of God.. that proceed from God’s Throne (symbolism).. ?
Aside from the symbolism.. speaking in more general terms... do they proceed from the human heart.. ?
(metaphorically speaking.... NOT the organ that gives you heart attacks)..

Do they represent our core human values.. ?
Those - highest - (or even supreme) values that we hold in our hearts.
Taking into consideration what the Book of revelation is saying..
The Spirits of God.. Isaiah most closely associates.. with the coming of Christ… are again.. associated with the Throne symbol..
This is not a coincidence……. there - IS - a connection.
Between what Isaiah is saying.. and the Book of Revelation.
((“there are seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, and these mean the Seven Spirits of God”))
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"And in Loving kindness a throne will certainly be firmly established; and one must sit down upon it in Trueness in the tent of David, judging and seeking Justice and being prompt in Righteousness. We have heard of the pride of your rulers, that they are very proud; their haughtiness and their pride - their empty talk will not be so."
"Righteousness and Judgment are the Established place of your Throne; Loving-kindness and Trueness themselves come in before your face."
Isaiah 16:5 & Psalms 89:14
Fnord wrote:
If so, then your god speaks through you with his own knowledge and wisdom..
Isn’t this is what "God" is saying.. ?
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"And there must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jesse; and out of his roots a sprout will be fruitful. And upon him the Spirit of God must settle down, the Spirit of Wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of mightiness, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of God."
"I have many things yet to say to you, but you are not able to bear them at present. However, when that one arrives, the Spirit of the Truth, he will guide you into all the Truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things coming. That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. All the things the Father has are mine. "
"Here I am bringing up for her a recuperation and health.. and I will heal them and reveal to them an abundance of Peace and Truth."
Isaiah 11:2 + John 16.12 + Jeremiah 33:6
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