The Truth AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH: 2016 Election

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Ummm, if the NATO didn't intervene or even didn't specifically target Gaddafi and his family with airstrike then Libya is probably in a much better position than they are now. Will you argue that intervention in Libya was justified and the results good? I don't see how anybody could.

Before the NATO intervention, Gaddafi was on the verge of crushing the rebellion with Benghazi being surrounded as the last hold out before that airstrikes started(not a 'no-fly-zone' as they called it)

If Libyans had the choice to undo this 'revolution' I think the overwhelming majority would, if you think I'm wrong then I think you need to do some research about what has gone on in Libya since. Gaddafi did a lot of good for his own people, Libya was the most prosperous country in Africa but no more!

While he did make reforms that were positive for some, he was, just like most other dictators, fundamentally anti-democratic and murdered those that dared dissent. I assume no 'good' comes to you if you're dead. ICC even had him charged with crimes against humanity.

Gaddafi reputation from the 80s seem to proceed him so it's easy to chalk him up as another tin pot dictator but he had given up his weapons program and was cooperating with our 'War on Terror'. It's kind of hypocritical on our governments part to decry his 'crimes against humanity' because you better believe that we torture terror suspects but what we did was put these CIA blacksites in these countries and we also turned over suspects to people like Gaddafi, Assad, and Mubarak who did torture medieval style on our behalf. Libya is now an ungovernable hell hole with two rival governments recognized by different world powers as well as warring tribes and ISIS in between. One government which the US and I think Turkey recognizes is Islamist and the other is a secularist one led by the national army recognized by the UN, Russia, and Egypt. It is a bad bad situation with no end in sight.

There's no evidence for that, and besides, infowars is a crap site.

The National Enquirer is a crap tabloid, doesn't stop them from occasionally being right.

The evidence is the documents and the 'spiritual advisor' Dr. Kilari Anand Paul



remember Hillary deleted a number of emails about Libya

Here's a good example of how the professional Left tries to personally target people for destruction online.

The cartoonist Scott Adams (Dilbert) has been blogging about the election for months now from his perspective as a speaker/salesman/persuader. He's written a lot of favorable things about Trump's ability in deal-making and persuasion. He's apparently become important enough that this week he was targeted for what looks like a coordinated online attack, which you can read about here:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1513015550 ... e-a-target

The attack involved suppressing his posts on Twitter, planting hit-pieces in a major online magazine (Slate), and posting numbers of negative reviews of his books on Amazon (all these things happening within days of each other).

Fortunately Adams is a well-off guy and he can absorb these attacks, but someone in a weaker financial or professional position could easily be silenced this way.

NEWS ALERT!

Julian Assange to speak in 15 min! (3am Eastern)

This is exciting! They just said Assange's personal lawyer died under mysterious circumstances.

It's now supposed to be 4am Eastern time.

Wth! Don't they know I need my beauty rest?

Streaming live on YouTube.

I should have known they wouldn't give out any juicy details. I'm going to bed!

Donald Trump Charity Gave to Jenny McCarthy’s Anti-Vaxx Crusade

I, for one, would like to opt out of my freaking flu vaccine, but I am being forced to take it. I also do not believe in the pneumonia vaccine. I have seen too many little oldies get the shot and end up with pneumonia a month later. Some vaccines probably have their purpose, but I think people these days get way too many vaccines. I believe in natural immunity. I remember where I used to work, both pharmacists I worked with also believed in natural immunity because of all the crap that is in vaccines.

So you agree with Trump that the anti-vaxxer idiot Jenny McCarthy should be supported in her anti-science campaign?

Go check out any old cemetary,there will be lots of little headstones marking where children died of illnesses that are now prevented by vaccines.

I'm not up to date on what this McCarthy woman is doing. I do know I'm not for forcing certain vaccines on people - it should be their choice. I think they have the medical profession brainwashed that vaccines are best. I think we have already had this discussion.

Yes, it should be their choice, as long as they stay far away from the rest of us.

I'm against unnecessary vaccines - the flu shot is a hit or miss and best left alone. Natural immunity would work best for that and the pneumonia vaccine - they came out with another vaccine so pneumonia has two. Shingles has a vaccine now. Give me a break with all of this crap. Then they don't have any control over TB. We as nurses used to have to get tested every 2 yrs and now no tests unless we come into contact with a TB patient - then it's too late. Now TB is getting out of hand and coming back again. A lot of illegals are also not being vaccinated. A form of polio is coming back. They are not controlling the important stuff.

Here's an article from a source you read - natural immunity is better in some cases.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =130433634

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