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10 Oct 2016, 3:24 pm

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Trump threatened an independent prosecutor, congress should of set one up regardless but of course none of these crooks want to be truly held accountable for their actions. There should be a permanent special prosecutor office overseeing congress and all branches of the federal government. Trump wouldn't need a special prosecutor to go after Hillary but it is an option to fend off the accusations of going after his political rivals. Hillary is a criminal and needs to be held accountable if this country is to have rule of law, our democracy couldn't be a bigger joke with such a corrupt individual possibly becoming the most powerful person in the world. It is clear that the FBI bent to political pressure and that the Justice Department were never serious in their investigations of Hillary, their immunity deals deliberately prevented a real investigation from taking place.

This is strange. I thought that paranoia wasn't a symptom of autism...



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10 Oct 2016, 3:34 pm

pcuser wrote:
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Trump threatened an independent prosecutor, congress should of set one up regardless but of course none of these crooks want to be truly held accountable for their actions. There should be a permanent special prosecutor office overseeing congress and all branches of the federal government. Trump wouldn't need a special prosecutor to go after Hillary but it is an option to fend off the accusations of going after his political rivals. Hillary is a criminal and needs to be held accountable if this country is to have rule of law, our democracy couldn't be a bigger joke with such a corrupt individual possibly becoming the most powerful person in the world. It is clear that the FBI bent to political pressure and that the Justice Department were never serious in their investigations of Hillary, their immunity deals deliberately prevented a real investigation from taking place.

This is strange. I thought that paranoia wasn't a symptom of autism...


People on the spectrum are also supposed to be more honest too.



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10 Oct 2016, 3:42 pm

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These threats to jail the opposition are not in keeping with America's values or traditions.


Political elites getting away with things that would lead to jail time for ordinary citizens isn't very American either.


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10 Oct 2016, 3:45 pm

Truth- Trump is a coward that still can't release his taxes! What is he hiding? Not worth as much as he claims? He has donated to Russia? He has loans to China and other countries? Or what?

I think at this point Trump and his friends know he is going to lose, so the chances of him releasing his tax returns are dwindling by the day.



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10 Oct 2016, 3:45 pm

Do you guys know that personal attacks are a violation of the rules? It is sad that you guys have to resort to attacking me instead of staying on the topic. I suppose it is an indirect form of flattery, I must really be threatening to worldview for me to given such a level of importance, what are we debating again? Me?

If Hillary has nothing to hide then she has nothing to worry about as far as independent prosecutor goes, why else would you oppose the recreation of the office of independent counsel? I think it should be something permanent, something that holds all our federal official in all branches of government accountable for their actions. The only reason you guys oppose this is because you are so committed to the Clinton crime family, don't think you that the corruption on Wall Street be exposed? Of course the establishment politicians fear accountability, they know how guilty they really are.



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10 Oct 2016, 3:46 pm

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Truth- Trump is a coward that still can't release his taxes! What is he hiding? Not worth as much as he claims? The fact he has donated to Russia? He has loans to China and other countries? Or what?

I think at this point Trump and his friends know he is going to lose, so the chances of him releasing his tax returns are dwindling by the day.


TRUTH-you are an obvious non tax-filer and don't know what is shown on a tax return



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10 Oct 2016, 3:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Truth- Trump is a coward that still can't release his taxes! What is he hiding? Not worth as much as he claims? The fact he has donated to Russia? He has loans to China and other countries? Or what?

I think at this point Trump and his friends know he is going to lose, so the chances of him releasing his tax returns are dwindling by the day.


TRUTH-you are an obvious non tax-filer and don't know what is shown on a tax return


I file taxes, so don't make up stupid assumptions just to attack me.

TRUTH- you would be whining and throwing a fit if Hillary Clinton didn't release her taxes. But since its Trump he can do as he pleases and its "perfectly fine" to you. Trump is a sexist racist pig just like many of his supporters- which is why many of them are still by his side. So sickening.

Trump should stop the coward act and just release the information that he legally can (which is a lot, even if you don't seem to think so). Every other candidate for quite a while has done it, Trump shouldn't be an exception.

Are you scared of what Trump is hiding?



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10 Oct 2016, 4:00 pm

The fact that so many Trump supporters flat out deny facts and instead choose to live in their own reality is astounding to me. I always knew there are a lot people who are susceptible to a con but I am surprised by how many of them there are and how much it takes to wake them up to it. I guess for some they prefer to go down with the ship rather than admit they were wrong and the others truly don't get that they're being conned.



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10 Oct 2016, 4:11 pm

I have to say this is the saddest election I have ever seen.

Absolutely disgusting how Trump specially invited Clinton's accusers.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/ ... story.html

Notice the "change of heart." Trump is obviously just using them and the saddest part of all is that both sides probably are guilty. Hillary is not responsible for his husband's raping, but when she discredits his victims, she is guilty of defamation (this isn't proven but I think a lot of people believe it). Also sad is how people become so blind to their rage towards Bill and Hillary that they will support anyone who attacks them. Very sad how these three women he invited are going to eventually realize they were just puppets of yet another rapist.

Really sad year for the US.



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10 Oct 2016, 4:11 pm

Earthbound wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Truth- Trump is a coward that still can't release his taxes! What is he hiding? Not worth as much as he claims? The fact he has donated to Russia? He has loans to China and other countries? Or what?

I think at this point Trump and his friends know he is going to lose, so the chances of him releasing his tax returns are dwindling by the day.


TRUTH-you are an obvious non tax-filer and don't know what is shown on a tax return


I file taxes, so don't make up stupid assumptions just to attack me.

TRUTH- you would be whining and throwing a fit if Hillary Clinton didn't release her taxes. But since its Trump he can do as he pleases and its "perfectly fine" to you. Trump is a sexist racist pig just like many of his supporters- which is why many of them are still by his side. So sickening.

Trump should stop the coward act and just release the information that he legally can (which is a lot, even if you don't seem to think so). Every other candidate for quite a while has done it, Trump shouldn't be an exception.

Are you scared of what Trump is hiding?


Where on a tax return do you find net worth? Where do you find what countries you have business dealings with? Where do you find any of this stuff you think you're going to find? Really am curious. A tax return shows you how much declared income you generated in any given year and whatever personal deductions, you saw his worst year back in the mid-90s which showed absolutely nothing illegal and only that he used the tax code the way it was designed to be used. The financial disclosure is way more detailed than a tax return would be.



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10 Oct 2016, 4:26 pm

Wikileaks reveals Hillary and Bill privately still oppose gay marriage

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2631

excerpt from Sydney Blumenthal(the guy who started the birther rumors in 2008 from Hillary's campaign) on Benghazi

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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

Any Hillary supporters want a swing at this? I doubt it.

b...b...but the Russians! REeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!1



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10 Oct 2016, 5:26 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
The fact that so many Trump supporters flat out deny facts and instead choose to live in their own reality is astounding to me. I always knew there are a lot people who are susceptible to a con but I am surprised by how many of them there are and how much it takes to wake them up to it. I guess for some they prefer to go down with the ship rather than admit they were wrong and the others truly don't get that they're being conned.


Wikileaks just released some email that supports your view.

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In their refusal to read documents or accept facts over fantasies, Republican conspiracy theorists have damaged this country in ways that cannot yet be fully comprehended.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2038

There may soon come a day when they will realize that their party has borne the bulk of the damage they've done with their dedication to conspiracy theories and lies.


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10 Oct 2016, 5:50 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Trump threatened an independent prosecutor, congress should of set one up regardless but of course none of these crooks want to be truly held accountable for their actions. There should be a permanent special prosecutor office overseeing congress and all branches of the federal government. Trump wouldn't need a special prosecutor to go after Hillary but it is an option to fend off the accusations of going after his political rivals. Hillary is a criminal and needs to be held accountable if this country is to have rule of law, our democracy couldn't be a bigger joke with such a corrupt individual possibly becoming the most powerful person in the world. It is clear that the FBI bent to political pressure and that the Justice Department were never serious in their investigations of Hillary, their immunity deals deliberately prevented a real investigation from taking place.

This is strange. I thought that paranoia wasn't a symptom of autism...


Personal attack - knock it off and act like an adult. Either bring something to the table or go sit in the corner for a timeout. That's how 2 yr olds are treated.


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10 Oct 2016, 5:52 pm

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pcuser wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Trump threatened an independent prosecutor, congress should of set one up regardless but of course none of these crooks want to be truly held accountable for their actions. There should be a permanent special prosecutor office overseeing congress and all branches of the federal government. Trump wouldn't need a special prosecutor to go after Hillary but it is an option to fend off the accusations of going after his political rivals. Hillary is a criminal and needs to be held accountable if this country is to have rule of law, our democracy couldn't be a bigger joke with such a corrupt individual possibly becoming the most powerful person in the world. It is clear that the FBI bent to political pressure and that the Justice Department were never serious in their investigations of Hillary, their immunity deals deliberately prevented a real investigation from taking place.

This is strange. I thought that paranoia wasn't a symptom of autism...


People on the spectrum are also supposed to be more honest too.


That goes for you too.


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10 Oct 2016, 5:58 pm

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Adamantium wrote:
These threats to jail the opposition are not in keeping with America's values or traditions.


Political elites getting away with things that would lead to jail time for ordinary citizens isn't very American either.


This is one reason why Trump supporters are pissed off. The "Elites" get away with murder - literally.


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10 Oct 2016, 6:14 pm

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Dox47 wrote:
Adamantium wrote:
These threats to jail the opposition are not in keeping with America's values or traditions.


Political elites getting away with things that would lead to jail time for ordinary citizens isn't very American either.


This is one reason why Trump supporters are pissed off. The "Elites" get away with murder - literally.


Absolute nonsense.

Do you really want to make such enemies of your fellow countrymen that civil war is the only answer?

This is where the road you are on goes.


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