Do you consider Islam a threat?

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Not at all. Praise to Allah ( ) that all this crap about a clash of civilisations will come to an end in the next year or two. There has never been any possibility that it could even hope to threaten the west, it has neither the political nor economic strength. The resorting to terrorism was the final acceptance of the coming defeat. Islamic fundamentalism is a response to and rejection of Western modernisation. The methods used to express this by Al-Qaeda (airplanes, satellite phones, global media as well as extreme violence, our favourite mode of communication for many a year) is to subsume the message they convey to the means of its conveyance.

Islamic Fundamentalism (not a psychiatric disorder Ruyven, though I've seen at least one other post of yours which seemsd to justfiy the killing of muslims with 9/11, this sort of thing shouldn't surprise me from your good self) rose to prominence as a reaction to the advance of western liberal democracy and modernisation into the middle east, which compressed the process the west underwent over 100-150 years or so into a decade. The destabilising effect was immense, and violent, hence the turn among some to an ideology which purported itself to be a viable defence against 'western imperialism' and so forth. Dialectically speaking Islamic Fundamentalism is the antithesis of (in particular) Anglo-American neo-liberalism, both of which are ideological dead-ends. In the space of the next two years there will be an uprising in Iran to remove the Ayatollah and will destroy Islamic Fundamentalism as an ideological force, taking its dialectical opposite with it into the abyss of history.

It's interesting to see your reactions, they differ much from reactions to such polls in the Netherlands. Whilst you think there isn't a real problem, many people in Holland disagree and think we are in danger.

@ Keith

Indeed you could vote for other parties, but you cannot ignore or stop an increased influence of Muslims in politics.

To me, one must evaluate a religion by what it actually teaches in its doctrine.

Islam teaches conversion via violence...global jihad. NOT ALL MUSLIMS PRACTICE THIS, and that's a good thing for everyone in the world, but in religion, a person who practices only the parts of their faith they agree with is considered a heretic.

So, as a religion, the threat will always be there, and from what I hear is going on in Europe, they are becoming increasingly militant every year in what they demand from others outside their faith.

Sooner or later, this will result in violence when the non-Muslims refuse to concede anything further.

Islamization? That sounds really suspicious and borderline prejudice. Accusatory in tone, even.

Any ideology that expects women to cover up their sexy bits in public and stands up against the free market gets my vote.

I think a lot of the aggression that comes from certain "Islamic" extremists is the fault of the West, who should have left the Arab world alone.

Islam is no more dangerous than any other religion. There will always be bastards who use religion as an excuse for atrocities and for judging "unbelievers" as somehow inferior to themselves. I have no religion, and see no reason for it, as I don't think there are any deities or miracles. But as long as the perpertrators do no harm, I'm happy to live and let live. Violence will always find some excuse or other, and if they didn't use religion then they'd just be a cult or a political group instead.

I accept that it's a pain in the butt that a lot of religious people hold onto harmful practices in the genuine belief that their gods want it that way, and it's a shame that they're so badly brainwashed that it would be very hard to talk them out of their beliefs without them feeling extremely guilty........in that sense I'd love to remove religion from the world completely, but I suspect they'd just replace it with something just as bad, and the more you oppress an ideology, the more it digs its heels in and fights back.

I think Titus kinda said it best <.< the fast forward shift to modern technology was initiated by the Shah when he once was in power. Ofc he had his own private police to silence opponents of said modernization... So yeah <.<

And just as a side comment, notice there's an increasing amount of muslim matrimonal ads popping up on WP? :p

Religion is only ever used as an excuse for war and troubles, it's rarely the actual cause.

agreed michjo:

crusades = control of mediterrenean ports to silk route
northern ireland = war against english colonialism

the list could go on and on

Its not really all about religion......... Its about race and culture. People don't want to see these differently colored people coming in from strange places and taking out their sisters and daughters for dating; having mixed-race babies with them. People like having people who look like them, act like them, dress like them, and speak their same language living on their block. People don't want to live in multi-racial neighborhoods and see their children brought in by minority culture. Dads don't want to see their sons acting like Eminem or some rap idol.

Even if the Muslims do become a majority.... They will never be true Englishmen or Americans or whatever. They will just be Muslims living in Europe or America.

But the fact is that Sunni Islam is a politicalized religion, and this negates their right to 1st Amendment protection. Being a Muslim is a lifestyle, being part of a greater worldwide allegiance and trumphing loyalty to any nation. If they don't separate church and state in their community and want to impose that paradigm on us, than they have no right to expect any better in return. The radical Muslims cry and whine all day that we don't respect their rights or religion and we mock Allah or whatever, but then they turn around and impose their barbaric cultural standards on their own community and make elaborate plans to make their way of life the law for everyone in due time. The fact is that the Muslims want it both ways......... They expect every benefit of the welfare state and all of the freedoms we offer, but then they turn around and impose their regimentation in their own communities.

Islam and 3rd-world immigration is the greatest threat facing us today. We have to send them all back at once. We can't let their cancer keep growing and spreading. Their goal is to force us all to worship Allah at the point of a sword. They will bring a new Dark Ages upon is if we don't act now.

Fortuantely people are starting to wake up to the threat.

europe has been next to the middle east at LEAST since the early 90's


we're fine.

@Brusilov

nice to see the pointy-white-hat-guys are still about. I'm pretty sure Muslims aren't entirely fond of people like yourelf either. Strange that you would proselytise on the intolerance of Muslims in the west then.....well, I don't need to spoon feed you all the rest, do I?

That said I think multiculturalism is the most virulently racist ideology yet to raise it's ugly head. I say this because multiculturalism exists only as the white liberal obverse of a global capitalist economy which annihilates or assimilates every society and culture in it's path. The very reason human beings (I deliberately use this term, for they are) from Africa, Asia, Latin America, the Middle East migrate to the first world is because of the sheer devestation sociologically, economically, ecologically which the global economy wreaks upon the thrid world. The only way to maintain both this economy and political stability in the west is through multiculturalism. Maybe there is a point where we just have to say on the level of identification there is an irreducible alien-ness to each other, our hatred and violence should be directed not at each other but at the thing which throws us together....

You want Arabs to stay in Arabia? Stop arming Saudi kings so you can have cheap oil.
You want Africans to stay in Africa? Stop poisoning their continent. Stop dumping your federally subsidised and substandard crops on their market.
You want Latin Americans to stay in Latin America? Stop destabilising every government that doesn't squeal "Uncle Sam!" every time you walk into the room. Stop your absolutely ineffective, wasteful and bloody handed policies on drugs and do something that works rather than what's good as a quick soundbite.
And Asia. Well Asia is a mess. Course they kicked you out of there many a moon ago.