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26 Aug 2009, 11:21 am

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Until someone solves the Einsteinian light barrier problem

Breaking the lightspeed barrier would essentially mean moving into the realm of time travel and teleportation. My guess is that it's probably coming fairly soon (give or take 60 years) but physics will have to redefine some things as far as how they currently perceive dimensions beyond the 3 we currently move freely in.

Breaking lightspeed may be 60 years in the future, but, like fusion power, looks to stay there.

Well, I'm hoping that the technological singularity will be legitimate and will help that 60 years actually be 60 years. But sadly, knowing humans, they'll waste the technology on getting more money and control.

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26 Aug 2009, 12:31 pm

Like warfare? <.< -grin-

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26 Aug 2009, 7:24 pm

skafather84 wrote:

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Until someone solves the Einsteinian light barrier problem

Don't hold your breath. Time travel will always be in the future. If time travel is possible where are the time travelers? Have we seen any?

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26 Aug 2009, 7:54 pm

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If time travel is possible where are the time travelers? Have we seen any?

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multiple universes?

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26 Aug 2009, 8:02 pm

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

pakled wrote:

Until someone solves the Einsteinian light barrier problem

Don't hold your breath. Time travel will always be in the future. If time travel is possible where are the time travelers? Have we seen any?

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26 Aug 2009, 9:51 pm

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

pakled wrote:

Until someone solves the Einsteinian light barrier problem

Don't hold your breath. Time travel will always be in the future. If time travel is possible where are the time travelers? Have we seen any?

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Who do you think runs the world? They certainly wouldn't clearly identify themselves.

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26 Aug 2009, 10:11 pm

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

pakled wrote:

Until someone solves the Einsteinian light barrier problem

Don't hold your breath. Time travel will always be in the future. If time travel is possible where are the time travelers? Have we seen any?

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Who do you think runs the world? They certainly wouldn't clearly identify themselves.

Logically speaking, one of the first things done with almost any new technology is to weaponize it.

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27 Aug 2009, 3:06 am

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Logically speaking, one of the first things done with almost any new technology is to weaponize it.

Actually weaponizing is the second thing. Inventing and testing is the first thing. Abuse is a small price to pay for our technology.

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27 Aug 2009, 9:57 am

ruveyn wrote:

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Logically speaking, one of the first things done with almost any new technology is to weaponize it.

I meant once development and perfection of the mechanics is achieved. I don't consider the process of developing an idea to be the same as implementation of it.

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27 Aug 2009, 11:06 am

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Logically speaking, one of the first things done with almost any new technology is to weaponize it.

Actually weaponizing is the second thing. Inventing and testing is the first thing. Abuse is a small price to pay for our technology.

Fire is first and foremost a useful servant. However it is a fearful master.

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Abuse has been a reasonable price but we are getting cleverer all the time. It's quite likely that abuse may be not be all that small a price in the near future.

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27 Aug 2009, 11:15 am

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Logically speaking, one of the first things done with almost any new technology is to weaponize it.

Abuse has been a reasonable price but we are getting cleverer all the time. It's quite likely that abuse may be not be all that small a price in the near future.

I'm pretty sure it stopped being a small price in the 40's.

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27 Aug 2009, 4:56 pm

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I'm pretty sure it stopped being a small price in the 40's.

How many nukes have been used in anger since 1945?

Did you know more people died in Ted Kennedy's car than died from nuclear bombing since 1946.

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27 Aug 2009, 5:46 pm

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I'm pretty sure it stopped being a small price in the 40's.

How many nukes have been used in anger since 1945?

Did you know more people died in Ted Kennedy's car than died from nuclear bombing since 1946.

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Thousands of people have died producing the radioactive material for bombs. See http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 ... 91,00.html

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27 Aug 2009, 6:48 pm

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

I'm pretty sure it stopped being a small price in the 40's.

How many nukes have been used in anger since 1945?

Did you know more people died in Ted Kennedy's car than died from nuclear bombing since 1946.

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Thousands of people have died producing the radioactive material for bombs. See http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 ... 91,00.html

Not to mention from the incompetent use of peaceful nuclear technology at Chernobyl.

The cooler our tech gets, the more painful a mistake becomes.

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27 Aug 2009, 6:59 pm

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Not to mention from the incompetent use of peaceful nuclear technology at Chernobyl.

The cooler our tech gets, the more painful a mistake becomes.

We're not too far from nanite medicine. Imagine the guy who makes an oops in the lab which causes them to take every tyrosine molecule in the body and place it on your forehead or pool all your carbon atoms next to your left toe.

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27 Aug 2009, 7:59 pm

Sand wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

I'm pretty sure it stopped being a small price in the 40's.

How many nukes have been used in anger since 1945?

Did you know more people died in Ted Kennedy's car than died from nuclear bombing since 1946.

ruveyn

Thousands of people have died producing the radioactive material for bombs. See http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 ... 91,00.html

the same is true of other chemicals that have no radioactive components.

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