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01 Oct 2009, 11:07 pm

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I have been wanting to watch this since it was posted, but I have trouble sitting through programs and sometimes go months without tv. It looks like something I would find really interesting, but I cannot bring myself to watch it. Can someone summarize? Is this similar to the links provided by skafather and ouinon?


Basically it is a strong effort to accept both determinism and free will and it seems to me it fails.


Unless we accept our collective role as the only god(s) this planet will ever know. Flawed but still able to affect (vast) changes and determine and judge what changes to be made.


Bacteria and plant life are quite effective at that also with no hubris about being gods.


Exactly.


edit: or do you wish to be a plant?


I am quite fond of my mobility and ever since I encountered my nervous system I have discovered a rather congenial relationship that I would be sorry to lose. Nevertheless I have no ambitions to be a god.



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01 Oct 2009, 11:33 pm

Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
claire333 wrote:
I have been wanting to watch this since it was posted, but I have trouble sitting through programs and sometimes go months without tv. It looks like something I would find really interesting, but I cannot bring myself to watch it. Can someone summarize? Is this similar to the links provided by skafather and ouinon?


Basically it is a strong effort to accept both determinism and free will and it seems to me it fails.


Unless we accept our collective role as the only god(s) this planet will ever know. Flawed but still able to affect (vast) changes and determine and judge what changes to be made.


Bacteria and plant life are quite effective at that also with no hubris about being gods.


Exactly.


edit: or do you wish to be a plant?


I am quite fond of my mobility and ever since I encountered my nervous system I have discovered a rather congenial relationship that I would be sorry to lose. Nevertheless I have no ambitions to be a god.


And yet 70 years ago, the idea that one could call any text, any movie, any music to them almost at will would seem a godlike task.

Never bad to be ambitious. We already have some godlike qualities in our society.

Note: not godlike in the sense of being like the idealized judeo-christian magic man of ever happy perfection...godlike in our manipulation of our environment and what exists around us.


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02 Oct 2009, 12:52 am

skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
claire333 wrote:
I have been wanting to watch this since it was posted, but I have trouble sitting through programs and sometimes go months without tv. It looks like something I would find really interesting, but I cannot bring myself to watch it. Can someone summarize? Is this similar to the links provided by skafather and ouinon?


Basically it is a strong effort to accept both determinism and free will and it seems to me it fails.


Unless we accept our collective role as the only god(s) this planet will ever know. Flawed but still able to affect (vast) changes and determine and judge what changes to be made.


Bacteria and plant life are quite effective at that also with no hubris about being gods.


Exactly.


edit: or do you wish to be a plant?


I am quite fond of my mobility and ever since I encountered my nervous system I have discovered a rather congenial relationship that I would be sorry to lose. Nevertheless I have no ambitions to be a god.


And yet 70 years ago, the idea that one could call any text, any movie, any music to them almost at will would seem a godlike task.

Never bad to be ambitious. We already have some godlike qualities in our society.

Note: not godlike in the sense of being like the idealized judeo-christian magic man of ever happy perfection...godlike in our manipulation of our environment and what exists around us.


From my point of view you seem to have an extremely limited concept of the tradition of being godlike.



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02 Oct 2009, 9:56 am

Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Sand wrote:
claire333 wrote:
I have been wanting to watch this since it was posted, but I have trouble sitting through programs and sometimes go months without tv. It looks like something I would find really interesting, but I cannot bring myself to watch it. Can someone summarize? Is this similar to the links provided by skafather and ouinon?


Basically it is a strong effort to accept both determinism and free will and it seems to me it fails.


Unless we accept our collective role as the only god(s) this planet will ever know. Flawed but still able to affect (vast) changes and determine and judge what changes to be made.


Bacteria and plant life are quite effective at that also with no hubris about being gods.


Exactly.


edit: or do you wish to be a plant?


I am quite fond of my mobility and ever since I encountered my nervous system I have discovered a rather congenial relationship that I would be sorry to lose. Nevertheless I have no ambitions to be a god.


And yet 70 years ago, the idea that one could call any text, any movie, any music to them almost at will would seem a godlike task.

Never bad to be ambitious. We already have some godlike qualities in our society.

Note: not godlike in the sense of being like the idealized judeo-christian magic man of ever happy perfection...godlike in our manipulation of our environment and what exists around us.


From my point of view you seem to have an extremely limited concept of the tradition of being godlike.


I like to keep things in perspective. The idea of godlike always evolves and changes to be ahead of where humanity is. Doctors heal more people than any Judeo-Christian miracle worker.


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