I have a question for only Christian aspies

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Nice post, AnnePande!

Spreading Christianity is not a belief that is held by all Christians. I know many who carry the same beliefs as SirLogiC do and think that it is unproductive. Should they not be allowed on this thread either?



I think what SirLogiC was trying to put across was that there are lots of ways to 'spread religion' or, as he interpreted it, spread good through the world or help people to better themselves. This can make it easier and more manageable as an autistic to do God's work.

I think the advice he gave the OP was really great and constructive. He didn't bash the OP's faith, but instead offered a means to help people in his faith, in this case helping people understand the Bible. Why did that warrant you coming in and saying that an atheist's opinion was unwanted? That was a little rude. People can share ideas and input regardless of their faith.

Thank you.

First, I'm not really sure what is so ambiguous about the statement, "I have a question for only Christian aspies." Call me crazy, but the title of the thread specifically stated to the contrary and asked, in specific, for a particular faith. Regardless, in my initial post I stated the potential for stating an opinion despite differences in religious faith (or the lack thereof).

That said, I've already addressed my initial rude tone, stepped back and apologized.

I've been having the same problems lately. At least I know I'm not alone in that regard.

Having Aspergers and how it affects my relationship with God... if Aspergers is something that is with a person inherently, then I would not be able to personally know what it feels like to be a neurotypical. Some NTs seem to be able to have/express emotions better, but it sometimes seems really fake to me (not that it necessarily is fake though, the display of emotions). To me, I still have emotions but I think they interfere with relationships more than they help sometimes, and that includes family relationships and the relationship with God. Perhaps I have less ability to relate to God than an NT does, being more like Data than like Troi, but emotions are more transient than life, they are fleeting, and what matters more is truth and whether the relationship is true.

"Does being autistic affect your relationship with Jesus/God?"

With all due respect, how the heck would I know if being autistic affects my relationship with Jesus/God? I have lived in the world of NTs all my life and still don't understand much of them, how do I know if not being neurotypical affects my relationship with non autistic God/Jesus?

I have only been autistic all my life, I have nothing to compare it with.

Merle

Remember the scripture where St. Paul talks about the Church as being made up of different parts, like a body? (1 Corinthians chapter 12). He says "There are different kinds of spiritual gifts but the same Spirit; there are different forms of service but the same Lord", and "Some people God has designated in the church to be, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then, mighty deeds; then, gifts of healing, assistance, administration, and varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work mighty deeds? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?"

My point is that telling others about Jesus may not be the work God wants from YOU. Christian hermits often say that their special ministry is intercessory prayer, praying to God for the needs of the world. They don't need to interact with people to know that there is war, famine, earthquakes like the one that just happened in Haiti; that there are sinners who want to be good and need grace to repent. As someone with ASD you know, for instance, that there are many people in this world who suffer bullying and discrimination for being atypical. You could make it your special mission to pray for them all to know the love of God and find self-acceptance.



I'm not sure why you think you can't love God until you have your need for social interaction taken care of. On the contrary, I think you need to look to God to meet your needs, because if you go trying to connect with people when you're this needy it scares them away. People can't meet your needs, only God can. Once you have that commitment to your relationship with Him -- making the decision to choose Him no matter what, and pray and read Scripture and ask Him to guide you day by day -- whether you FEEL like you're relating or not, it gives you a firm confidence that is much more attractive to others. You will have something to give, not just take, from your relationships with people.

That's one thing which deeply disappoints me about Wrong Planet, the aggressively anti-Christian forces here.

Maybe I'm blind to something when I just don't see that same kind of vigor directed at other religions. I don't know.

Funny that a place about acceptance contains within itself such militant derision of some of its citizens.
It nearly renders the whole thing farce.

And I am close to deciding it just ain't worth staying here.

Actually, know what, I'm about 3 seconds from saying f**k the Planet, I'm outta here.
Even if it is a win for "the other side".

Been put down and made fun of all my life for the traits of Aspergers and even for what my name made fun of all my life, find and come into a place promising acceptance, and guess what, more of the same.

Anyway, on with the theme.

I don't see how any given element of what a person is, has, or does, would not affect their relationship with any other person, be it human or God.
Not sure how specifically to use words to get the idea across.

Will try this:
Between humans, whether one is woman, man, child, adult, single, married, divorced, widowed, rich, poor, working, unemployed, liberal, conservative, attractive, ugly, kind, mean, educated, uneducated, wise, naive, childless, a parent, and so on, will have effects both obvious and subtle on any given relationship: both the mechanics of it and the attitudes and perceptions of it.

While God is not of human form he is a person, so to me it follows the same holds true there.

That's not unique to WP, that's the whole Internet.


We just don't generally talk about other faiths- Christianity is what comes up most often. Islam gets pretty harsh treatment as well. Aside from that, most faiths are too "obscure" to the typical audience here to have much serious criticism directed at them.

That's what dissapoints me about people in general, a lack of tolerance for other people's beliefs.




Don't be discouraged.

Where did WP promise anything, Southwestforests? WP is a support group for Asperger's Syndrome and other Autistics and their families and friends. Acceptance is as acceptance does, I guess.

Are you being actually serious saying you are not aware of the passion by which people proselytize their religions and beliefs? You don't find a lot of Christians online because it is a touchy feely religion, lots of emotion and sharing. Crowding in large groups to praise and worship is a fellowship intensly social kind of thing

In an autistic gathering you will find much less touchy feely folks with more intellectual conversation because ,without belief, and with a lot of other conteporary documents available a lot of the bible/koran/bhagavad gita stories become archaeological anecdotes.

so before you list the wars the atheists fought against the dainty history of a pristine religion above all of that sort of thing, please remember WP is just here to support all our members on the autism spectrum. No promises.

Merle.

Yeah, and this is just one of many ASD support sites. Have fun exploring the variety, should you choose to.

I come here to talk about random things with other people on the spectrum, and I really appreciate the variety you see here because it is such a large site.

I use a different forum to talk discuss things that would fall into the "PPR" category - just because I prefer the style of debate found over there. But that's just me.

If I want to talk about a specific interest, like reptiles, I use forums specifically for that.

The Internet really has a lot to offer . . . .

Many a days I feel as if I'm the appendix...or a wisdom tooth...a vestigial organ.

Sometimes I think I'm the spastic colon.

Or as we like to say in my favorite Catholic online community, about the flamers and the nut jobs: "in the body of Christ, somebody's got to be the a**hole."

Ha, how true.