culture. has it ruined you and is it a good thing?

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is culture a good thing?
yes 52%  52%  [ 11 ]
no 48%  48%  [ 10 ]
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24 Jan 2010, 12:08 pm

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Culture is what connects one to the other people in the society or community into which he has been born. Language is the first cultural artifact acquired, after which comes custom and morals. I human cannot exist as a human without some kind of culture, so how can culture ruin anyone?

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Read Frankenstein

People are born amoral, we are born as individuals. There is good and bad in everything, so look at the good society and culture has to offer and try to ignore that which stifles your creativity and growth.


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24 Jan 2010, 12:13 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Culture is what connects one to the other people in the society or community into which he has been born. Language is the first cultural artifact acquired, after which comes custom and morals. I human cannot exist as a human without some kind of culture, so how can culture ruin anyone?

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Exactly. The title of this thread is meaningless!



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24 Jan 2010, 12:19 pm

CULTure.
The cult dedicated to the ancestors' ways.
Anti-individualism. Pro-groupthink.

Has it hurt me? Yes of course.
A great percentage of CULTure seems to come through TV, public schools and movies. I have been exposed to these mind conditioning mediums.



But on the other definition of culture, like the one Phil777 described, I see it as a need for human social evolution. This type of "culture" takes place naturally. It is not enforced, it lives through your own individual participation, emulation.



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24 Jan 2010, 12:19 pm

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what we need here is a pandemic. to see how well cultured people will hold up. i can almost garentee victory for the native americans who keep it real and others who are not use to a comfy life. well versed you say? will see if well versed wants to eat bugs and snakes to survive :wink:

cell phones not working? see immeadiatly when i said that more than a few people gasped and cecked to see how many bars they still had.
im trying to deprogram myself from this hiddeous culture :jester:


Thats one of the unwritten Sci Fi novels in my head.
Some kind of collapse occurs. The only survivers are certain native american tribes, and the Amish farmers - Oddball fringe Americans who still know how to be subsistence farmers without industry.



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24 Jan 2010, 12:34 pm

listen to this, it will be a test.

pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza a supper time when pizza is on the menue you can have pizza anytime.

the test is over, if you are hungry then culture has made you hungry. there is no two eating situations that are at the same eating time, so now your eating twice! wich will make you eat four times a day instead of three because you forgot lunch


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24 Jan 2010, 12:48 pm

Well don't talk like a gangster then!

Regain your own sense of self if that's what you want.



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24 Jan 2010, 1:00 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Culture is what connects one to the other people in the society or community into which he has been born. Language is the first cultural artifact acquired, after which comes custom and morals. I human cannot exist as a human without some kind of culture, so how can culture ruin anyone?

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A mathematician who doesn't know logic? Fallacy alert!

Your argument is exactly similar to, "A human cannot exist as a human without some water, so how can water ruin anyone?" Err... by drinking 10 gallons of the stuff, or by putting your whole head in it for 5 minutes or longer. Same with culture I guess: being immersed too deeply in a particular culture, or a system of language, custom, and morality as you would say, can easily lead to a person being ruined by all the absurdities, stupidities, and inconsistencies of that culture.


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24 Jan 2010, 1:08 pm

I know that I would be different if I was born in Paris, or Afghanistan, or some ghetto, or Beverly Hills. Anyone who says culture has not affected them is either deluding himself, or he is not too aware of his surroundings, or he has no inner world/substance.


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24 Jan 2010, 1:43 pm

what would be your culture nightmare? mine would have to be addicted to plastic surgury. and wigs :(


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24 Jan 2010, 1:46 pm

Mine would be addicted to drugs.

Also, living in a judgmental society is a nightmare.


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24 Jan 2010, 1:51 pm

Oh, I forgot to say, I love where I live. I love the culture here. It's very diverse and intellectual.


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24 Jan 2010, 1:53 pm

ahh ahh cultural stereotypes. yes, if you arent like me your different, and that scares me so i need to make fun of you because i dont understand it. now we get to the heart of the best of culturlaism


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24 Jan 2010, 2:02 pm

Yeah, that is when we ruin ourselves, when we allow what others think/expect of us to infiltrate our psyches and warp our souls.


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24 Jan 2010, 2:13 pm

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well? i say 85% of it has completley distroyed me. i talk like a gangster and i seem to have layers of personality that isnt me. i think culture can be a good thing if its simple like planting beans and signing in a group. otherwise its totally devestating!


You should check for other things that mainstream culture. Like watching Ghibli anime or independant movies, reading old books and so on...


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24 Jan 2010, 4:18 pm

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I enjoy a small container of yogurt once in a while but I cannot claim it was the ruination of my life.


I get what you meant by that... quite amusing as many of your posts are.

No, culture has not ruined me, I used to copy things thats people on games/movies say but it was simply the words. I would repeat them over and over...



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25 Jan 2010, 2:47 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
Culture is what connects one to the other people in the society or community into which he has been born. Language is the first cultural artifact acquired, after which comes custom and morals. I human cannot exist as a human without some kind of culture, so how can culture ruin anyone?

ruveyn


A mathematician who doesn't know logic? Fallacy alert!

Your argument is exactly similar to, "A human cannot exist as a human without some water, so how can water ruin anyone?" Err... by drinking 10 gallons of the stuff, or by putting your whole head in it for 5 minutes or longer. Same with culture I guess: being immersed too deeply in a particular culture, or a system of language, custom, and morality as you would say, can easily lead to a person being ruined by all the absurdities, stupidities, and inconsistencies of that culture.



What YOU just said is a fallacy, because that wasnt the question.
The fact that too much, or brackish, or salty, or whatever water can kill you is irrelevent if the question is simply "is water bad for you?."

The poster asked "is culture bad for you". He didnt say anything about *A) what he meant by the world"culture", nor (B) what type of culture nor subculture he was talking about.
(highbrow, lowbrow, pop, american, Eskimo, Japanese, redneck, black, -some clue as to what he means).

Since no human can function without some kind of culture then the question as stated was meaningless.
Hes made a fool himself to ask it that way. And it is a disservice to him not to point that out.


He probably meant "american culture". The question "is american culture bad for you?" is a perfectly okay question to ask. But if thats what he meant then he shouldve stated that way.