Teabaggers' opening speaker demands Jim Crow laws

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I agree. These Tea Party people need to un-moronize themselves.
This isn't the 1950s, it's the freaking 2010s!

If "Big wh***y" is so scared of Obama "ruining" America,
then BW should move out of the country.

The Tea Party movement is united not by being for anything necessarily moreso than being against things, their biggest weakness is that since it's a movement motivated by an anti-ideology, it's opponents will cherry pick whatever few pro-racist, pro-corporatist pro-life pro-war ect. people they spot among the ranks (and they are there), and hold them up as examples and proclaim this must be what the Tea Partiers are FOR. It's a very cheap and easy misrepresentation to do.

Since there is no true leader, whoever the "leader" is will be whomever the opposition decides to crown, which as you can see, will be the dumbest or most racist individual that the more foolish tea party sects grant a microphone to. It's the lowest common denominator that will rise to the top of the Media spotlight.

For a lot of these people, "spread the wealth" and "tax and spend" means stealing from wh***y and giving it to coloured people and that coloured people are using their vote to this end, helped by "elitist white liberals in their ivory towers" who want to destroy America. They claim that America was founded as a Protestant, white country, and that this is what it is to be American, that the black influence, the Hispanic influence, the Catholic influence are evil influences, alien influences, anti-American influences that will ruin that which made America great, which is to be white and Protestant. Being white and Protestant is why America succeeded where Mexico and others failed, they say. If these trends don't stop then they think America will become Mexico or Haiti or something like that.

It has been pointed out that Americans used to be more generous in their view of the poor, back when the face of poverty were the white hill peoples of Appalachia. Then in the '70s, that face became black, and with it "welfare" became a dirty word.

And you know this how? You can read minds?

Thanks for sharing your amazing power with us.

Telepathy is not necessary. there are enough public comments since the Reagan era and onwards to firmly confirm this sentiment.

From Hoover onwards, actually. Ever since 1928 when the Republicans used anti-Catholic sentiment to help defeat Al Smith, they have become the heirs of the old Southern Democrats. Nixon took it further with his "southern strategy" and the GOP has, generally speaking, opposed racial equality and any other progressive idea since the Great Depression.

Okay, but how does that make all tea partiers racists now? For what I understand a lot of these folks have never even been involved in politics.

Saying so and so said this one time or so and so did that way back when doesn't mean everybody supported it then or supports it now.

One must, if not judge, get some intimation of the nature of an organized movement, from the actions and the speech of its prominent speakers. Perhaps there were a few black embers of the KKK (although that does seem somewhat unlikely) and perhaps a few Jews joined the Nazi party but the bulk of the members and their statements are the standards to judge by.

QFT, I remember a similar thing happening in the mid to late 90's with the anti globalization protests that were in vogue at the time. You had these huge protests with dozens of groups pushing hundreds of messages, it was next to impossible to distill down what all these people were so angry about, and invariably it was the most out there people who made the news because clear and rational people don't get rating like raving extremists do. My only direct experience with any Tea Party members was when a group of them showed up at my college with some rather generic "defend the constitution" type posters, and chased off an abortion protester who was displaying a graphic poster in front of our day care, for which many were thankful. Unlike some people, I'm not going to claim to understand the whole movement based on this one encounter, nor am I going to tar the whole group because it has attracted a few bad apples who get a disproportionate amount of coverage due to their very extremism. I'll just be curious to see if anything comes of any of this, I don't personally consider protests to be terribly effective at changing policy, all they're traditionally good for is getting you're opposition riled up, which the Tea Parties have achieved beautifully.

I don't think that most of these racists are hard-core Ku Klux Klan-types, I think many of them are racist without thinking about it. That's because they were brought up in an environment where racism is just part of the scene and they don't give it much thought. There was one person who wrote about racism who considered himself a non-racist liberal type who told the viewers of a time when he got on a plane and found out the pilot was black, and felt some unease at that... it's this kind of thing that comes from living in a country where members of a certain race were imported as a servant race and all sorts of rationalisations had to be made to justify that, and where elites, particularly in the Third-World colonial-style economies of the South used to divide the lower classes so they can maintain their grip on power.

These days they try hard to claim that racism is over, that it's behind them. I think that trying to get rid of racism in a society set up as the American south has anyway, is very difficult. It's revealing when people say that the U.S. cannot have generous social programmes or universal medicare or a more equal distribution of wealth because of "multiculturalism" - in short, it's easier to treat the lower classes badly if they are identified as part of a different, servant race. It's also no surprise that Brazil, set up originally as a slave colony, is also one of the most unequal countries on Earth.

By the way, Karl Rove himself said that this talk of "taxes" is code to say "Keep the blacks from robbing from wh***y".

I was too young and uninterested in politics to have remembered those protests, but it sounds similar to what I've seen of the Tea Parties here. I've personally attended 2 (or 3) events. The first one was in Trenton last April, and it was excellent, about 300 people turned out in the chilly rain and the speakers were quite great, and stayed on the points that the Tea Party was founded on, such as opposition to excessive Government deficit spending, opposition to the bail-outs, adhering to the Constitution, getting Congress to actually read the bills before they vote for them, ect. The worst signs I saw were that of a couple of the "birthers", but nothing hateful or obnoxious.

And then July 4th, I went to one in Philadelphia, a bit confused since I head 2 drastically different starting times for this event at the same location. I arrived and there had to be at least 1200 people there, nice and sunny day with tents up and everything. However this event was quite different; the speakers were far more interested in towing the Republican/Neoconservative party line, as one after another they railed against Abortion, Gay Marriage, and that Obama wasn't killing Terrorists fast enough and should be bombing Pakistan more and be harder with Iran. >_< (For the record, one of the speakers was a Hispanic woman, immigrant from Honduras if I recall right). I was very disappointed with the sudden change of focus, however I hung around at the end of the event. It turned out 30 minutes after the first one ended, there was a second Tea Party. Unfortunately the crowd dwindled to about 100 and the tents packed up and left, but this time the speakers were great and back on target, and temporarily restored my faith in the movement.

But now many months later, the invasion of the Tea Party by the Republican/Neocons has gotten worse, to the point where the entire credibility of the movement hinges on the words of 2 establishment Republicans (Palin and Tancredo) at ONE "Tea Party" event out of hundreds if not thousands that have happened nationwide over the past 3 years, and they go off and say the dumbest crap possible. Now the opposition wants to crown them "leaders"of the movement and then try to make the whole movement out to be nothing but hating a black man as President and wanting to let minorities die off. The fact that there actually are a small amount of racists out there that have brought distasteful signs to some of the events haven't helped any, though I myself didn't see anything like that in either event I attended.

In short, I agree with you lol. I'm not sure if I want to associate myself with the Tea Partiers anymore, not if it's going to turn into a Republican evangalistic sect.

That's kind of like how some Christians have the power to know that deep down, Atheists really do believe in God, but simply find ignoring him and pretending he isn't real is the best way to justify their sinful lifestyles. They, like you, can see that people truly don't believe what they say to believe, they're always secretly evil in some way.

Or it could simply be true that atheists really don't believe in a God, and that the majority of Tea Partiers really do oppose Socialistic plans for reasons that have nothing to do with prejudice.




I'm curious, who were these "people" that say the US can't have generous social programs because of "multiculturalism"? That isn't something I've ever heard of. The objections to those things I'm most familiar with are that those things are too costly (especially during a recession), that they're un-Constitutional, and that it's a violation of individual rights to forcefully take via taxation the wealth of those that earned it to give to those who didn't earn it.




I'm no fan of Karl Rove, but I'd like a much more complete quote with context included rather than fragments.

One of their leaders made a racist argument. And these morons didn't expell him. This is unlike Hillary Clinton. These are either morons or racists or both.

Obama's been a terrible government, that does not make these guys any more smarter.

I'm not precisely sure that the Tea Party even has leaders, or any process for expelling them if they do, from what I understand they're pretty loosely organized and casual, so the few that are off the deep end that receive a disproportionate amount of media coverage are creating a false image of the group as a whole, which is a shame. I'd be interested in checking out a Tea Party myself, since my libertarian view mesh with many of the things they're saying, except that I don't want to be lumped in the with sprinkling of nuts that inevitably show up at events of this nature and give the whole group a black eye. I have half a mind to show up in my extremely elaborate Comedian costume just so I'd attract the attention of the news media and could give some calm, rational and reasonable answers about the "message" the group is trying to send, but they'd probably go with the whackjob in camo gear spouting paranoia and crazy, those types are considered better television by most of the networks.

Also, I don't think the Tea Party has expressed any desire to run the country, they're mostly just registering their opposition to the direction they see it going in now, and trying to raise awareness of what they see as destructive policies promoted by the Democratic, the President, to a lesser extent the Republican party.

That you label Republican disinterest in the best outcome for the country as a "lesser extent" considering their enthusiasm for the vandalism of the US when Bush was in power nails you down fairly solidly.

There's this fear of a "reckoning" when the blacks will have their revenge on wh***y for slavery... that's there certainly. Glenn Beck spoke to that when he claimed that Obama's health care plan is a secret plan for slave reparations by stealth.

All the stereotypes developed during slavery remained. Slaves were accused of being lazy and not being fast enough to obey the master, so now blacks are stereotyped as lazy and indolent. They want to go on welfare as fast as possible and they don't care at all about education and advancement. This is the stereotype. Add to this the media overrepresenting the "gangsta" as somehow being typical of blacks, the "pimps and hos" and all of that. James O'Keefe played to that with his ACORN dirty tricks.

It's an easy matter to internalise this stuff without being a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan leading lynchings and cross burnings. To say that you are a tolerant person who believes in equality for all whilst thinking privately that those blacks are hopeless and need "tough love".