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NeantHumain
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17 Feb 2010, 10:47 pm

Orwell wrote:
That's basically how it works here: there are different groups within both major parties, and either a Democrat or a Republican must make concessions to various groups to secure their support. Different voting blocs may switch party allegiance, which is roughly equivalent to a new coalition forming.

Not really; for example, the Democratic Party may have everything from conservatives in the South and rural West to progressives and green environmentalists; yes, sometimes you may have some choice among these in the primaries and caucuses, but you only get two choices (sometimes not even that) between the two major parties during the actual elections. During the primaries, a party's candidates will try to appeal to a main "base" in that constituency, so a Democrat in rural Texas will still be overwhelmingly conservative, even in the primaries. Basically, our current system minimizes the influence the average voter has.



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21 Feb 2010, 10:08 pm

Orwell wrote:
Omerik wrote:
I never understood the two-party system, in most European countries, at least, there are many parties, and I don't see them fall apart once a year...

They form coalitions, effectively dividing themselves into two factions.


True - but there's certainly a much larger debate and range of potential policies in the supra-party formation stage than tere is in the American duopoly.



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22 Feb 2010, 11:58 am

Kalikimaka wrote:
I had a math teacher a while ago who raved about the idea of instant runoff voting.

Let's get out of the way that Arrow's theorem states that ANY system of voting is unfair.



A vote with two outcomes decided by a majority of those who voted is fair. Any other form of vote, according to Arrows's Theorem, could be unfair.

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