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28 May 2010, 5:17 pm

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Even if formulated in this manner, it would be equally true to say that liberals also try to enforce their morality upon others, and in places like Canada actually have Pastors arrested for hate speech if they read certain passages of Leviticus or Romans.

I'm not saying I am a fan of them either. However, part of the conflict is the belief that conservative Christians are also wrong. It is not as bad to be right and enforce morality as it is to be wrong and enforce morality.

The belief that conservative Christians are wrong isn't held by everyone, certainly not held by conservative Christians at least. Another part of the belief is that the rabid liberals (rabid ones in particular, especially when they've reached the foaming-at-the-mouth stage) are evil. Kinda like the movie Quarantine.

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28 May 2010, 5:49 pm

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i wonder why theyre angry.
maybe it has to do with christians saying "hey i found this book that says god made the world flat so it must be true!" hmm might get particularly annoying dont you think?

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28 May 2010, 5:54 pm

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The belief that conservative Christians are wrong isn't held by everyone, certainly not held by conservative Christians at least.

Of course! Generally, if P believes X and holds to it and plenty of others believe P is wrong, P won't believe himself to be wrong.

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Another part of the belief is that the rabid liberals (rabid ones in particular, especially when they've reached the foaming-at-the-mouth stage) are evil. Kinda like the movie Quarantine.

Would it be surprising that P believes the oposition to be evil while the oposition believes P is evil?

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28 May 2010, 6:12 pm

irishaspie wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:

i wonder why theyre angry.
maybe it has to do with christians saying "hey i found this book that says god made the world flat so it must be true!" hmm might get particularly annoying dont you think?

Is that really why Liberals are angry at Conservatives? Even without the Bible involved, the matters of Epicureanism versus Stoicism would still be present.

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28 May 2010, 6:15 pm

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The belief that conservative Christians are wrong isn't held by everyone, certainly not held by conservative Christians at least.

Of course! Generally, if P believes X and holds to it and plenty of others believe P is wrong, P won't believe himself to be wrong.

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Another part of the belief is that the rabid liberals (rabid ones in particular, especially when they've reached the foaming-at-the-mouth stage) are evil. Kinda like the movie Quarantine.

Would it be surprising that P believes the oposition to be evil while the oposition believes P is evil?

Nope, it's not surprising at all. Every single person views the views that they hold as correct and subsequently anyone who holds a view in opposition to their own views they automatically view as incorrect.

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28 May 2010, 6:18 pm

do explain.

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28 May 2010, 6:27 pm

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do explain.

About the Stoics and Epicureans of Greek and Roman history or about human nature in regard to holding one's own perspective as true and anything contradictory as false? Or both? Or neither?

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28 May 2010, 6:39 pm

both.
i havent read much about the fomer and i disagree with the latter-i find it hard to believe everyone is that pig-headed

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29 May 2010, 2:55 pm

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we wouldnt be much better than them then.

Not as if it'd matter since wouldn't have to hear it from them.

Maybe just throw them on reservations like the indians.

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29 May 2010, 9:18 pm

Let me elaborate on what I wrote earlier. I'm liberal in the sense that I believe everybody should be able to do and say whatever they want, just as long as they're not violating the rights of anyone else. In this case, I don't think a pastor should be prosecuted for simply preaching something.

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30 May 2010, 1:37 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Is that really why Liberals are angry at Conservatives? Even without the Bible involved, the matters of Epicureanism versus Stoicism would still be present.

How is liberalism vs conservatism a matter of epicureanism vs stoicism?

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30 May 2010, 1:32 pm

Conservative Christianity is a parasite on the back of the United States, and like any other parasite needs to be forcibly removed.

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30 May 2010, 4:31 pm

A religion in general is merely a cult with many more members (and therefore is more socially acceptable). I honestly believe that religion was created to serve as a control structure. And hey! It works pretty well too.

It's just funny how all those people who listen to Alex Jones are trying to free themselves from the New World Order, but don't even realize that they're being controlled by their own religion.

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30 May 2010, 5:08 pm

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And they don't realize how much their religions are basically the same as any New World Order.

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30 May 2010, 5:57 pm

Great post AG.

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30 May 2010, 6:31 pm

skafather84 wrote:

irishaspie wrote:

we wouldnt be much better than them then.

Not as if it'd matter since wouldn't have to hear it from them.

Maybe just throw them on reservations like the indians.

If you want them gone so much, just give them their own land, and force them to follow their bible word for bloody word (pun intended.) I think that would achieve both sides; it's moral because they think it's moral so you give it to them, and it still cuts their population down to half a percent of the original.

To the OP: great post, although it's audience is almost completely restricted to those who already agree, and those who will never agree. Do you mind if I use it when of my classes? it would be perfect.

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