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10 Jun 2010, 10:35 pm

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"Inconceivable"

-Vizzini from The Princess Bride.


Actually, I consider the most strident atheistic to be Richard Dawkins, with the runner up being PZ Myers and in third place Sand. Awesomelyglorious is just good at politicking, but he's too reasonable to have the irrational anger necessary to be truly STRIDENT. Since this is false and God cannot speak falsehood, therefore God did not endorse Awesomelyglorious.




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You know, there is a similarity between the boy who cried wolf and car alarms. Some things just get old fast.


Considering Christianity, not fast enough.


It's not going to either. Get over it.


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10 Jun 2010, 10:41 pm

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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point though.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:03 pm

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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....



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10 Jun 2010, 11:05 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....


There seems to be some unconscious unacknowledged indecision there. Things are looking up.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:11 pm

Sand wrote:
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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....


There seems to be some unconscious unacknowledged indecision there. Things are looking up.


Perhaps in your opinion, but only if sarcasm is merely a random collection of seven letters randomly arranged.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:14 pm

Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....


There seems to be some unconscious unacknowledged indecision there. Things are looking up.


If one only cares to look at their navel, they will never see what box they're in.


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10 Jun 2010, 11:14 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....


There seems to be some unconscious unacknowledged indecision there. Things are looking up.


Perhaps in your opinion, but only if sarcasm is merely a random collection of seven letters randomly arranged.


Aaah. But I was being optimistic, not sarcastic. But I have heard that sarcasm is a difficult perception to most AS people.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:18 pm

Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
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It's not going to either. Get over it.

Well, I can understand this. After all, if you brainwash children with a fear of hell, and salt their minds with lies, how could truth grow there? I still think that Sand has a very good point thogh.


That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, [sarcasm]perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....[/sarcasm]


There seems to be some unconscious unacknowledged indecision there. Things are looking up.


Perhaps in your opinion, but only if sarcasm is merely a random collection of seven letters randomly arranged.


Aaah. But I was being optimistic, not sarcastic. But I have heard that sarcasm is a difficult perception to most AS people.


It's a difficulty for those reading rather than hearing in general.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:18 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....

Grr.... I misspelled point.

Sand's implicit point is that since other religions died out, so could Christianity.

Some people do admit to a fear of hell having influence on their actions and behavior. This does not necessarily mean you, but your mind is probably salted with too many lies anyway as another point.



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10 Jun 2010, 11:23 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....

Grr.... I misspelled point.

Sand's implicit point is that since other religions died out, so could Christianity.

Some people do admit to a fear of hell having influence on their actions and behavior. This does not necessarily mean you, but your mind is probably salted with too many lies anyway as another point.


Well, if my mind is salted with so many lies, then where from? Sporadically attending churches? Autodidacism? Then another question becomes, whose mind isn't salted with lies? Do you think that government school education is the least bit objective? Or where would anyone develop whose mind isn't "salted with lies"?



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10 Jun 2010, 11:23 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
That depends upon whether your definition of point means "opinion". I suppose he has very pointed opinions.

I don't think I've ever had a fear of hell, perhaps my mind is just salted with too many lies... not....

Grr.... I misspelled point.

Sand's implicit point is that since other religions died out, so could Christianity.

Some people do admit to a fear of hell having influence on their actions and behavior. This does not necessarily mean you, but your mind is probably salted with too many lies anyway as another point.


It's drilled in at times when you're santa-eligible.


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10 Jun 2010, 11:31 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Well, if my mind is salted with so many lies, then where from? Sporadically attending churches? Autodidacism? Then another question becomes, whose mind isn't salted with lies? Do you think that government school education is the least bit objective? Or where would anyone develop whose mind isn't "salted with lies"?

Where from? Well, I don't know in your particular case, but they are religious falsehoods.

Whose mind isn't salted with lies? While it is true that many minds are full of falsehoods, it does seem true that yours is worse.

I am not going to claim that government school education is objective. That still doesn't mean that you are very good as this goes though.



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11 Jun 2010, 3:57 am

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Satan runs the power company. Turns out Satan's real name is Berton Phlup. BP for short.


LMAO! Can I quote that in my sig? :lol:


I can't guarantee it's true. God is a wily character and obviously His mind wanders but it's OK with me. If God objects He'll strike you dead with lightning.


Or maybe drown you with oil? Quantum of Solace style?


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11 Jun 2010, 9:02 am

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Well, if my mind is salted with so many lies, then where from? Sporadically attending churches? Autodidacism? Then another question becomes, whose mind isn't salted with lies? Do you think that government school education is the least bit objective? Or where would anyone develop whose mind isn't "salted with lies"?

Where from? Well, I don't know in your particular case, but they are religious falsehoods.

Whose mind isn't salted with lies? While it is true that many minds are full of falsehoods, it does seem true that yours is worse.

I am not going to claim that government school education is objective. That still doesn't mean that you are very good as this goes though.


Mine is worse? By what standard of measure, a scale of cognitive dissonance? How about a measure of mutually contradictory presuppositions? The greater the magnitude of unshared and/or contradictory presuppositions, the more we view each other as having been "filled with lies"?



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11 Jun 2010, 10:37 am

Lost shaker of salt topic

Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.

I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies. :twisted:

Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least. :P And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.


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11 Jun 2010, 11:10 am

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Lost shaker of salt topic

Sometimes we need a small amount of salt to make the truth taste better. But going over the limit can lead to hypertension.

I can understand to some extent that when people are confronted with their own death, they wonder if perhaps they just might live on after the demise of their bodies. :twisted:

Now I am going to be strident: Atheists know that when they die, they will have no recollection of this life because there will not be a free floating memory to let them know that they have departed their earthly shackles. This means we will have no awareness of our own death, and its existential moment. It will be left to others to remember us through memorials, funerals, legacies, wakes, and what have you. This saddens me somewhat to realize that I will have no inkling that I have ever lived, but I do hope that someone will remember me in a positive light, at least. :P And each of us gets one chance at life, so make the best of it, and then you will hopefully not be villifed after you are ashes and dust.


These, of course, are the aspirations of someone who's whole mental stance rests upon what other people think. For one thing, a huge number of people don't think very well nor very much. Although it is good policy to take their reactions into consideration while one is alive, after one is dead they have very little or any consequence. Being alive is very much a matter of lonely experience and I do live to enhance my own and as many other lives, human and otherwise because, while alive I care about what occurs around me. After I'm dead there is no me to give a damn what people think of me.