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NeantHumain
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12 Jun 2010, 4:49 pm

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either your position is ad hoc....

Despite your close ties with a supposed omniscient entity, it took you awhile to hit the nail on the head. We the Civil Atheists and Agnostics (only me so far, but you get the idea) needed some nice-sounding rhetoric to distinguish us from the Strident Atheists. We could not let such stridency go unopposed.



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12 Jun 2010, 5:30 pm

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Despite your close ties with a supposed omniscient entity, it took you awhile to hit the nail on the head. We the Civil Atheists and Agnostics (only me so far, but you get the idea) needed some nice-sounding rhetoric to distinguish us from the Strident Atheists. We could not let such stridency go unopposed.

How are there close ties, even the joke was about god being an enemy who I deny the existence of, and it was a joke.

You have to recognize how many people actually believe the rhetoric. It could be their rhetoric, but they would still believe it.

Why couldn't you allow it to go unopposed? Do you think it matters either way? I regard you as "opposition" only as much as I perceive this attitude towards my group, otherwise, you are just the good cop to stand opposed to my bad cop.



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12 Jun 2010, 9:59 pm

NeantHumain is applying the same policy when it comes to fundamentalist Christianity that Obama applies to the Republicans: compromise, compromise, compromise, concede, concede, concede, and maybe the magical Chess pieces will all fall into place.

Bipartisanship, whether theological or political, is stupidity and weakness at its height. Obama's found that out, maybe the "Civil Atheists and Agnostics" will.

I STRIDENTLY oppose this group.



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12 Jun 2010, 10:27 pm

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We'd rather maintain our skeptical identity and work in coalition with liberal theists than assert an overcompensating anti-belief that will only led atheists to theistic positions.

When did I ever sign on to this "coalition" with you? I find the STRIDENT atheists much more amusing.

Seriously though, you're kind of killing the joke by making a moderate version. The only reason it was funny was because it was so extreme and histrionic. It's like making a politically centrist Colbert Report (that is to say, it's completely freaking lame).


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12 Jun 2010, 10:56 pm

Orwell wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
We'd rather maintain our skeptical identity and work in coalition with liberal theists than assert an overcompensating anti-belief that will only led atheists to theistic positions.

When did I ever sign on to this "coalition" with you? I find the STRIDENT atheists much more amusing.

Seriously though, you're kind of killing the joke by making a moderate version. The only reason it was funny was because it was so extreme and histrionic. It's like making a politically centrist Colbert Report (that is to say, it's completely freaking lame).


His group isn't moderate, they're EXTREME Accommodationists.

I was, interestingly enough, thinking of starting a third group of "Semi-Strident anti-theists" to stand "inbetween the brazen WP Strident Atheists and cowardly CAAUFA". Would that have been lame or hilarious?



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12 Jun 2010, 11:15 pm

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I was, interestingly enough, thinking of starting a third group of "Semi-Strident anti-theists" to stand "inbetween the brazen WP Strident Atheists and cowardly CAAUFA". Would that have been lame or hilarious?

Some combination of both, probably.


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12 Jun 2010, 11:38 pm

Orwell wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
We'd rather maintain our skeptical identity and work in coalition with liberal theists than assert an overcompensating anti-belief that will only led atheists to theistic positions.

When did I ever sign on to this "coalition" with you? I find the STRIDENT atheists much more amusing.


I find it amusing that you think the term "liberal theists" specifically applies to you.

And yes, I am amusing.



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12 Jun 2010, 11:48 pm

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I find it amusing that you think the term "liberal theists" specifically applies to you.

Well, I am basically the liberal theist of the forum. We've got a couple fundies, assorted varieties of atheists and agnostics, and... me.


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12 Jun 2010, 11:53 pm

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Well, I am basically the liberal theist of the forum. We've got a couple fundies, assorted varieties of atheists and agnostics, and... me.

I didn't mean that you were wrong, but it is always funny when one uses an abstract plural term to refer to a single particular thing.



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13 Jun 2010, 12:15 am

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I didn't mean that you were wrong, but it is always funny when one uses an abstract plural term to refer to a single particular thing.

Kinda like how NeantHumain uses "we" to refer to a "group" which thus far contains only himself?


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13 Jun 2010, 12:45 am

Orwell wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
I didn't mean that you were wrong, but it is always funny when one uses an abstract plural term to refer to a single particular thing.

Kinda like how NeantHumain uses "we" to refer to a "group" which thus far contains only himself?


That's a habit of kings and newspaper editorials.



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14 May 2011, 7:12 pm

Let this be a reminder of what happens to groups that oppose WP Strident Atheists - they collapse from within.


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14 May 2011, 7:18 pm

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Let this be a reminder of what happens to groups that oppose WP Strident Atheists - they collapse from within.

You know who also brought back the dead? Jesus. What happened to Jesus? He got nailed to a cross. That's why necromancy is a bad idea.



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14 May 2011, 9:02 pm

I can't be a member, as I heartily disagree with some of the listed tenets, even before they were criticized, IE Singer and the notion of speciesism.

I'm always looking for this supposed "radicalism/militarism" of atheists here, and can find only skeptics making historically-accepted observations about religion as a whole, and begging repeatedly for empirical evidence from others only to be strawmanned.

So the proposed group strikes me as the parallel apologist committee to accompany the well-known PPR theists' persecution complex.


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14 May 2011, 9:09 pm

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I can't be a member, as I heartily disagree with some of the listed tenets, even before they were criticized, IE Singer and the notion of speciesism.

I'm always looking for this supposed "radicalism/militarism" of atheists here, and can find only skeptics making historically-accepted observations about religion as a whole, and begging repeatedly for empirical evidence from others only to be strawmanned.

So the proposed group strikes me as the parallel apologist committee to accompany the well-known PPR theists' persecution complex.


This group only ever had one member, though.


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14 May 2011, 9:23 pm

CAAUFCA_esque topic

I hope Ska returns. I miss him STRIDENTLY


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