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17 Jun 2010, 9:45 am

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"Free will" just means we are responsible for the choices we make and the plans we intend to do.


Exactly, so a god can't interfere with them.


Really, how did you get to here from there?


If we have free will to make our own choices, then obviously they can't be made by god, duh :roll:



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17 Jun 2010, 9:49 am

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What do you think it's like to be God

well it is boring really.
since i wrote the script of reality, then i already know what is going to happen, so it is useless for me to stick around and watch the show.



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17 Jun 2010, 10:00 am

Asp-Z wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
"Free will" just means we are responsible for the choices we make and the plans we intend to do.


Exactly, so a god can't interfere with them.


Really, how did you get to here from there?


If we have free will to make our own choices, then obviously they can't be made by god, duh :roll:


So, you would presume that an omnipotent God would only be able to make choices through humans?



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17 Jun 2010, 10:02 am

Asp-Z wrote:
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"Free will" just means we are responsible for the choices we make and the plans we intend to do.


Exactly, so a god can't interfere with them. Which actually undermines the idea that he's omnipotent.


It doesn't. God can have the power to interfere and choose not to exercise that power; God can allow people free will as a favour (a very big one, though probably necessary if God ain't gonna be bored stiff watching them a la Aulë) to them.

the bible wrote:
5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them." 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.


And lo verily the LORD saith "instead of just erasing them in a zillionth of a second, which is entirely in MY power as creator of the universe and general omnipotent GUY, I shall use this crappy flood plot device instead that I have cribbethed off the Sumerians. And verily while I am on I shall ensure that the greater part of MY miracles are things which would be easy for a stage magician to counterfeit, for that maketh sense. I shall certainly not paint a pink flourescent dragon on the Moon as token of MY power." :roll:


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17 Jun 2010, 10:08 am

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crappy flood plot device instead that I have cribbethed off the Sumerians.


Don't forget the Incas of Peru, the Aztecs and Mayan also, the Australian aborigines, and many other accounts from all over the planet.



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17 Jun 2010, 12:25 pm

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Even when I was a Christian, I remember being curious about that. And "God" doesn't necessarily have to be limited to the Judeo-Christian god; it can be any god or gods from any religion or myth. Basically, I'm asking what you think it's like to be an omnipotent deity.


Being an omnipotent deity who expects to be loved unconditionally is a hard row to hoe.

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18 Jun 2010, 3:18 pm

I'm guessing it would be quite an easy job. Just do what you want when you want, no one can stop you. You've got followers worshiping you left right and centre, some people hate you but no matter what people's stances are you're still getting undivided attention.

I'd like to be a god.


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18 Jun 2010, 3:21 pm

I think it'd be rather annoying to have people worshiping you all the time...maybe that's just me, I don't know...lol.



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18 Jun 2010, 7:27 pm

I have no idea and furthermore I have no wish to find out.

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18 Jun 2010, 7:30 pm

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I think it'd be rather annoying to have people worshiping you all the time...


You could have just asked me. I would have told you that.


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18 Jun 2010, 7:34 pm

I believe in God, but I've often wondered why God doesn't screw with the laws of the universe for his own personal amusement. I mean, if I were God, I'd be tempted to screw with the earth's gravitational pull so people would float into space just because I could and because I would want to see what would happen. But then, I'm sure God isn't juvenile or weird like I am. :) but hey, if I'm God, I could do anything that struck my fancy! Why not?



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21 Jun 2010, 6:08 pm

Descartes wrote:
Even when I was a Christian, I remember being curious about that. And "God" doesn't necessarily have to be limited to the Judeo-Christian god; it can be any god or gods from any religion or myth. Basically, I'm asking what you think it's like to be an omnipotent deity.


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27 Jun 2010, 8:11 pm

Being indirectly omnipotent and relativistically the centre of the universe, I would imagine it would not be too different from how I am now, I'd just have more unanswered prayers directed at me instead of someone else. :P



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27 Jun 2010, 9:27 pm

Being God, of course, is to be totally inscrutable. Idiots who think they can figure God out are on he level with bumblebees trying to do the New York Times crossword puzzle. The Bible, of course, was written for people who worship anything old written down and gullibility is obviously much more dominant in humans than intelligence. So the statement that God created man in his own image is merely a sop to human vanity. No human ever created a universe nor even made a woman out of a rib bone.



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28 Jun 2010, 10:25 pm

Descartes wrote:
Even when I was a Christian, I remember being curious about that. And "God" doesn't necessarily have to be limited to the Judeo-Christian god; it can be any god or gods from any religion or myth. Basically, I'm asking what you think it's like to be an omnipotent deity.


God keeps to him self. He's pretty quiet. He writes a lot, an observer of the world and yet also highly introspective. He sees all the silly and pointless and destructive and nonsensical things that Humans do, and feels confused by the world, but he has extreme difficulty expressing anything. He is standoffish and barely verbal. Everybody loves him when he's handing out free food or money, but when he isn't then suddenly nobody is very keen to be his friend anymore. Anything bad that happens gets blamed on God even when it isn't his fault, and he is too quiet to defend himself. Some people belittle him for the faults they think God has, others are intimidated by him because he seems so stern and serious. God sometimes seems friendly and happy, but has a serious angry side that makes seemingly random appearances, for reasons nobody can fathom. Nobody really knows what's going on with God, because he barely talks and when he does he has a hard time making anybody understand what he's saying. So he writes down all his thoughts into a book, which sadly few will read and fewer will understand.

If you haven't guessed it yet...

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Yes, I am God. Bring me a diet pepsi.


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29 Jun 2010, 8:03 pm

druidsbird wrote:

God keeps to him self. He's pretty quiet. He writes a lot, an observer of the world and yet also highly introspective. He sees all the silly and pointless and destructive and nonsensical things that Humans do, and feels confused by the world, but he has extreme difficulty expressing anything. He is standoffish and barely verbal. Everybody loves him when he's handing out free food or money, but when he isn't then suddenly nobody is very keen to be his friend anymore. Anything bad that happens gets blamed on God even when it isn't his fault, and he is too quiet to defend himself. Some people belittle him for the faults they think God has, others are intimidated by him because he seems so stern and serious. God sometimes seems friendly and happy, but has a serious angry side that makes seemingly random appearances, for reasons nobody can fathom. Nobody really knows what's going on with God, because he barely talks and when he does he has a hard time making anybody understand what he's saying. So he writes down all his thoughts into a book, which sadly few will read and fewer will understand.

If you haven't guessed it yet...

...

Yes, I am God. Bring me a diet pepsi.


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