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29 Sep 2010, 7:04 pm

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Out of total ignorance of the note my first thought would be that the guy found something more worthwhile in death than life. Perhaps I might be persuaded by his material but at this point I find life more interesting.

First thought from me was skepticism, I was wondering if that might be a hoax, given that the suicide thing seems to add a convenient value to the message in the "textbook", being distribuited for free seems to give it benefit towards the claim though, if that was for sale, it would be seen towards that line mostly.

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29 Sep 2010, 7:51 pm

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The suicide makes it annoying because he doesn't have to stand to his work being scrutinized and it gives his work free publicity. Granted his ideal was obviously more important to him than his life but it's still an annoyance more than it is a seal of approval other than that he certainly was drinking his own koolade and, unlike that scum Ted, he didn't outwardly attack or blame society; he just analyzed it.

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29 Sep 2010, 7:58 pm

Just a note: right near the end of the writing (I'd estimate within the last 30 pages of text before the bibliography) he speculates that he could have Asperger's Syndrome because his father was an engineer, and I believe he wrote his father's father was too. Don't ask me for page numbers. Unfortunately I closed the document and couldn't find it again.

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29 Sep 2010, 7:59 pm

So why the silver bullet? I mean the suicide anthology or the silver bullet alone would have made the event notable, but both seems a bit over the top.

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29 Sep 2010, 8:00 pm

Dox47 wrote:

So why the silver bullet? I mean the suicide anthology or the silver bullet alone would have made the event notable, but both seems a bit over the top.

If you're already going to this much effort to do one, why not the other?

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29 Sep 2010, 8:01 pm

WonkyDonkey wrote:

If he wrote something like that, he didn't use the word "asperger", "autism" or "spectrum".

Edit: maybe he did....google docs doesn't seem to search all 1905 pages.

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29 Sep 2010, 8:04 pm

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Just reading the table of contents of the whole thing is pretty entertaining.

"How Rome was Raped by Jesus' Penis of the Spirit, Contracting a Deadly Virus"

Man....I wanna use that as a title for something so badly now.

My dad is currently reading a book called Jesus Wars. It's basically about a Christian council in 451 AD (Council of Chalcedon, I think) that was the last such council before the Roman bureaucracy kicked the bucket, leaving the Christian Church in charge. The Church took the liner notes from that council and enforced it with deadly force, burning whole cities to stamp out "heresy". And the Church won, since there was no real opposition, the Roman Empire being DOA. So, Christians by and large believe what that council said they should, because of the fortuitous timing. I don't think Christianity CAUSED Rome to collapse, Rome had changed religions multiple times over the centuries and always did fine. It's just that when Rome DID collapse, the Church was the only thing left. The kingdoms formed by the Germans were pretty weak. So, the Church did what religions do, namely declared all opposition blasphemy and forcibly wiped it out with some irregulars from the old Roman legions who needed a job.

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29 Sep 2010, 8:06 pm

skafather84 wrote:

WonkyDonkey wrote:

If he wrote something like that, he didn't use the word "asperger", "autism" or "spectrum".

Edit: maybe he did....google docs doesn't seem to search all 1905 pages.

Found it. Page 1859.

Wouldn't surprise me if he was an aspie. The 2000 page Great American Suicide Anthology is a bit of a hint.

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29 Sep 2010, 8:15 pm

Just read a bit of his "history" (Part II: Converse Cognates). The author was an idiot. I would suggest ignoring his rambling nonsense.

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29 Sep 2010, 9:28 pm

It's pretty sad that he couldn't find a reason to live or that nobody helped him since it's obvious he planned this long in advance. Oh well, at least he didn't go out and kill a bunch of people I guess.

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29 Sep 2010, 11:13 pm

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Yeah...this guy wrote his manifesto but he only took himself out, didn't kill others. Gotta be glad for small favors. If you read it, it doesn't seem to be too anti-society so much as it is analytical so it makes sense that he wouldn't try and kill others. Teddy was writing about the evils of society, this guy just kinda analyzed it and didn't find it a society worth living in.

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29 Sep 2010, 11:21 pm

First 100 pages are pretty interesting.

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30 Sep 2010, 12:00 am

takemitsu wrote:

First 100 pages are pretty interesting.

It helps that the guy has an interesting writing style. It's a shame he killed himself, he probably could have done great as a satirical writer.

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30 Sep 2010, 1:10 am

skafather84 wrote:

takemitsu wrote:

First 100 pages are pretty interesting.

It helps that the guy has an interesting writing style. It's a shame he killed himself, he probably could have done great as a satirical writer.

I'm closing in on page 150 and it's still coherent, you'd think that someone that killed himself had an unstable mind would sound pretty batty, but that's the common expectation...if it stays on track, I'd say this was a big FU to the world, mocking it's sensibilities, and challenging what is rational.

He shot himself because he wanted to show everyone that he is rational, because the fear of death is irrational.

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30 Sep 2010, 1:14 am

takemitsu wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

takemitsu wrote:

First 100 pages are pretty interesting.

It helps that the guy has an interesting writing style. It's a shame he killed himself, he probably could have done great as a satirical writer.

It doesn't really stay on track...at least as far as citing historical references, he misses on a lot of things. His discussion later about aspergers and hypermasculinity is interesting, though. (the mention of aspergers is on page 1859 as I mentioned earlier).

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30 Sep 2010, 1:26 am

It's stupid any way you look at it. The male ego to the power of prick. Some of you guys have that in common.

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