Should condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying be banne

Page 2 of 8 [ 126 posts ] Go to page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8 Next

Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,732
Location: Bradenton, Florida

05 Oct 2010, 3:09 am

You think I believe in the bible? I love pointing out how completely ridiculous it's demands are and how it creates so many contradictions in itself.

God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble - he's not very humble himself
The one unforgivable sin is blasphemy - which Saul was guilty of yet he was forgiven and wrote half the new testament!

_________________
"Some ideals are worth dying for"
==tOGoWPO==

auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 114,768
Location: the island of defective toy santas

05 Oct 2010, 3:14 am

the late comedian steve allen[!] wrote a book detailing over 5000 various errors in the bible. needless to say, i have never found it anywhere online or in any bookstore, but i know he wrote it because i saw him being interviewed on tv about it ages ago.

Tensu
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,661
Location: Nixa, MO, USA

05 Oct 2010, 3:28 am

Pistonhead wrote:

You think I believe in the bible?

no.

Quote:

I love pointing out how completely ridiculous it's demands are and how it creates so many contradictions in itself.

good for you, though I think you'll find that it doesn't really contridict itself: you just don't understand it.

Quote:

God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble - he's not very humble himself

for a being that created all existence he sure is.

Quote:

The one unforgivable sin is blasphemy - which Saul was guilty of yet he was forgiven and wrote half the new testament!

Who says Saul commited blashphemy? He did what he did not because he hated God, but because he thought it was the right thing to do. HUGE difference. besides it says blaspheming THE HOLY SPIRIT is unforgivable. when Saul was still Saul, it's doubtful he even knew what the holy spirit was.

LKL
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Age: 49
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,402

05 Oct 2010, 3:54 am

Tensu wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

And what of a fertilized egg? It is not a sentient being so there is no wrong in its owner destroying it.

ruveyn

but it is human and alive.

so is a healthy appendix that is prophylactically removed during exploratory abdominal surgery.

Tensu
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,661
Location: Nixa, MO, USA

05 Oct 2010, 3:59 am

but it isn't harmful and is independent...

...in the same way an internal parasite is independent, but independent nonetheless.

BigK
Velociraptor

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Posts: 400

05 Oct 2010, 4:22 am

Pistonhead wrote:

Believing in the bible does, Romans 13:1

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

"submit himself"? Does that include sexually?

And I suppose seven days really means seven days.

_________________
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.

"How can it not know what it is?"

you_are_what_you_is
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 26 Mar 2010
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 755
Location: Cornwall, UK

05 Oct 2010, 5:29 am

Pistonhead wrote:

Moron, Catholic, or both.

All Catholics who think condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying should be banned are morons.

.

_________________
"There is no idea, however ancient and absurd, that is not capable of improving our knowledge."

ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

05 Oct 2010, 7:53 am

saintetienne wrote:

Psychopompos wrote:

If a spermatozoid is considered as a lifeform, each ejaculation is a genocide. EVEN if it leads to a pregnancy which ends with a birth.

but what if the sperm grows up to be a human just like you or i?

What if my grandma had balls? Would she be my grandpa?

ruveyn

ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

05 Oct 2010, 7:53 am

Tensu wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

And what of a fertilized egg? It is not a sentient being so there is no wrong in its owner destroying it.

ruveyn

but it is human and alive.

Is it sentient? Is it a person?

ruveyn

Ambrose_Rotten
Velociraptor

Joined: 22 Jul 2010
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 453
Location: Madison, WI

05 Oct 2010, 8:30 am

saintetienne wrote:

Psychopompos wrote:

If a spermatozoid is considered as a lifeform, each ejaculation is a genocide. EVEN if it leads to a pregnancy which ends with a birth.

but what if the sperm grows up to be a human just like you or i?

All 100-115 million sperm cells? Even if one sperm cell becomes an embryo, the other hundred million end up dying.

number5
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 15 Jun 2009
Age: 47
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,691
Location: sunny philadelphia

05 Oct 2010, 9:05 am

LKL wrote:

Most zygotes are spontaneously aborted (ie, miscarried in non-medical parlance) before they implant, and without the woman ever knowing that fertilization occurred.

Good point. We really should be banning miscarriages. (please note the sarcasm)

Erisad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 5 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,058
Location: United States

05 Oct 2010, 9:32 am

No. We don't need anymore unwanted children forced into adoption or foster care because their parents were too stupid to use protection. Besides, the earth is overpopulated as it is. Let some die out first. D:

skafather84
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,848
Location: New Orleans, LA

05 Oct 2010, 9:56 am

BigK wrote:

Pistonhead wrote:

"submit himself"? Does that include sexually?

Dunno, ask some congressional pages.

_________________
Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings. ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823

?I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.? - Hunter S. Thompson

sartresue
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Age: 70
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,313
Location: The Castle of Shock and Awe-tism

05 Oct 2010, 10:08 am

Celling your soul topic

Spermatozoa, eggs, (fertillized or not) and neurons are examples of cells, building blocks of life, but not life itself. This is elementary biology. A fetus is not viable unitl a minimum of 22 weeks gestation has passed.

Condoms help prevent disease, as well as pregnancy, though pills, vasectomies and tubal ligations only prevent conception.

Rhythm is unreliable as a birth control method (though it worked for my mother, in limiting family size).

_________________
Radiant Aspergian
Awe-Tistic Whirlwind

Phuture Phounder of the Philosophy Phactory

NOT a believer of Mystic Woo-Woo

Autumnsteps
Velociraptor

Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 460
Location: Uk

05 Oct 2010, 10:26 am

No for lots of reasons

Some people cannot take care of a baby or don't want to, condoms prevent disease as well as pregnancy, what about if a woman is raped and gets pregnant? or if someone has a genetic illness they don't want to pass on...,

Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

05 Oct 2010, 11:27 am

What would banning those things actually achieve? Nothing.

Are there any actual scientific reasons for banning them? No.

So, should they be banned? Of course not.

Page 2 of 8 [ 126 posts ] Go to page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8 Next

Jump to:

Should condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying be banne Post Reply New Topic

Should condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying be banne