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14 Oct 2010, 2:16 am

Is Hanotaux off his meds? :pale:



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14 Oct 2010, 3:17 am

Clearly you guys have your narrative about how badly the White majority is 'persecuting' ethnic minorities......... So I ask........?

- What further accommodations should white people in power make to help make minorities more equal? What more do white people need to do that they aren't doing now? Do whites need to make more concessions and fund more federal programs?

- What specific changes need to occur in our society to make it a better place for minorities. How does the national media need to adjust itself to become more minority-friendly?

- What specific changes would you suggest to help level the playing field and make black people more "equal." You persist with the narrative so I'm just wondering your suggestions?


Honestly, I don't see what more effort whites could make to help black people get a "leg up." We already have so many programs.

You would have a point about the media in 1910 denigrating minorities for sure................. The contemporary media: news, film, televison, etc, already makes so much extraneous effort. What more could they be doing?

Its a bit ridiculous to say 'end persecution' when the only persecution is assiduous subliminal anti-white propaganda.



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14 Oct 2010, 3:29 am

I do see an interesting issue being raised here; what's an advocacy group to do once it's purpose has been achieved? I think there is a real danger of such groups manufacturing or exaggerating issues to further extend their existence and the donations that fuel it or resorting to goal creep in order to try and stay relevant.

As far as the NAACP is concerned, though I think we live in a far from colorblind society I think they're becoming increasingly anachronistic as an organization, and can actually damage their cause by perpetuating the stereotype that minorities tend to blame all of their ills on outside forces and nebulous "racists" rather than looking inward. They're still on a 1960's footing, and that just feels out of touch in this day and age.


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14 Oct 2010, 3:29 am

John_Browning wrote:
NAACP=Nigerians Against All Caucasian People.

And yes, there is a difference between Nigerians and decent respectable black people.


And there is a difference between backward, ignorant, bigoted scumbags and decent respectable, white people. :D

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Though I suppose it depends on your definition of "decent respectable".


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14 Oct 2010, 3:48 am

Hanotaux, your fear makes two assumptions:

1. That minorities will continue to increase in number faster than whites. Why believe this? When we were first coming over here, we came over in droves and bred like rabbits, but eventually everyone who wanted to leave europe left, and we learned that huge families may not be worth it. What indicates that the minority population will increase exponentially?

2. That no interracial marriage will occur. As minority populations increase, interracial marrige will probbably also increase. It's pretty hard to hate Race X when you or your best friend is 30% Race X. It's my belief and hope that hate will eventually be rather litterally destroyed by love.

I don't see any need to become a racist out of a fear that might never happen, and even if it does won't happen in my lifetime, and won't happen suddenly.

But you do raise an interesting question about advocacy organizations. I do feel that they may create more racism than they allieviate.



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14 Oct 2010, 6:02 am

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Peter the Great destroyed English Mansions


Someone please tell me that's a pop-culture reference. Otherwise:

1) Peter the Great was Tsar of Russia.
2) There are large houses in the English countryside; they're called "stately homes" or "country houses." One could call them mansions, but one doesn't.
3) They're still intact.


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14 Oct 2010, 7:59 am

skafather84 wrote:
I've been around here long enough to know who means what without having to point out and assume the nasty incivilities that people really mean in their choice of words.


/the racists here aren't hard to pick out after a few months of actually reading what everyone has to say
//but there are still a couple borderline racists who default to racists merely because they are white and don't know any better...but those are easy to separate from the core group of racists


Which group do you categorize me within?



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14 Oct 2010, 8:09 am

Dox47 wrote:
I do see an interesting issue being raised here; what's an advocacy group to do once it's purpose has been achieved?


After it's purposes have been achieved such a group could just disband as it's no longer needed. Or it could continue acting as if it were needed, reminding people of all the past injustices once suffered by one people group at the hands of another. In this way it could actually foster a need for it to continue to exist.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:09 am

Dox47 wrote:
I do see an interesting issue being raised here; what's an advocacy group to do once it's purpose has been achieved? I think there is a real danger of such groups manufacturing or exaggerating issues to further extend their existence and the donations that fuel it or resorting to goal creep in order to try and stay relevant.

As far as the NAACP is concerned, though I think we live in a far from colorblind society I think they're becoming increasingly anachronistic as an organization, and can actually damage their cause by perpetuating the stereotype that minorities tend to blame all of their ills on outside forces and nebulous "racists" rather than looking inward. They're still on a 1960's footing, and that just feels out of touch in this day and age.


That all makes good sense. But while I do think groups heading into obsolescence will give in to goal creep and exaggerations to extend their lifespan, I don't think it's all that dangerous. A group does this when its membership is dwindeling. While it may try to shout louder and louder to still be heard with its smaller and smaller body, if it is truly obsolete it will die of attrition.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:17 am

Tensu wrote:
Hanotaux, your fear makes two assumptions:

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2. That no interracial marriage will occur. As minority populations increase, interracial marrige will probbably also increase. It's pretty hard to hate Race X when you or your best friend is 30% Race X. It's my belief and hope that hate will eventually be rather litterally destroyed by love.

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I just highlighted this second one because it made me think of former President George Bush Sr. and his "little brown ones" ( his granddchildren who are darker skinned than him) and it made me think of Tiger Woods coining the term Cablinasian. I think that in the future all this race war nonsense will become a moot point as different racial groups become increasingly related by blood and marriage. It's hard to have a "race war" with your own in-laws and grandchildren.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:30 am

yes, tiger woods is THE role model for mankind: he f..ks anything that doesn't have a knob.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:33 am

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yes, tiger woods is THE role model for mankind: he f..ks anything that doesn't have a knob.


I thought that was James Bond.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:33 am

Katharsistwo wrote:
yes, tiger woods is THE role model for mankind: he f..ks anything that doesn't have a knob.


Who said he was a role model? I said he coined the term Cablinasian. That term is relevent to this discussion. His infidelity is not.



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14 Oct 2010, 8:42 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Katharsistwo wrote:
yes, tiger woods is THE role model for mankind: he f..ks anything that doesn't have a knob.


I thought that was James Bond.


'My name is Woods, Tiger Woods...'



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14 Oct 2010, 9:30 am

Fear + Ignorance = Hate
It takes a whole lotta love to conquer hate.

Janissy wrote:
Tensu wrote:
Hanotaux, your fear makes two assumptions:

....
2. That no interracial marriage will occur. As minority populations increase, interracial marrige will probbably also increase. It's pretty hard to hate Race X when you or your best friend is 30% Race X. It's my belief and hope that hate will eventually be rather litterally destroyed by love.

.


I just highlighted this second one because it made me think of former President George Bush Sr. and his "little brown ones" ( his granddchildren who are darker skinned than him) and it made me think of Tiger Woods coining the term Cablinasian. I think that in the future all this race war nonsense will become a moot point as different racial groups become increasingly related by blood and marriage. It's hard to have a "race war" with your own in-laws and grandchildren.


Eventually I also believe love will conquer :)



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14 Oct 2010, 9:32 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
I've been around here long enough to know who means what without having to point out and assume the nasty incivilities that people really mean in their choice of words.


/the racists here aren't hard to pick out after a few months of actually reading what everyone has to say
//but there are still a couple borderline racists who default to racists merely because they are white and don't know any better...but those are easy to separate from the core group of racists


Which group do you categorize me within?


Confused.


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