ILLEGALS ARE STEALING JOBS FROM ASPIES!! !

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obvious troll is obvious anywhere but an aspie ppr forum.

Jobs cannot be stolen since they are not the property of the employed person. A job is a contractual arrangement between the one who hires and the one who wishes to work for what ever wage or reward is being offered.

ruveyn

All the good points have been made (not a great job for an Aspie, anyway; the immigrants hired in fast food actually are checked for legal status, etc), so here is my contribution to the thread:

I'm voting for satyr. This thread is intended to be a joke.

But I wouldn't have caught that if someone else hadn't mentioned it first.

Yet Lawyers, physicians, and economists reap the benefit of working in a protected labour market (i.e. the state gov't continually increases standards for doctors inconsistently to bar out foreigners who might want to take a shot at displacing current physicians in the job market. Physicians associations in Canada do similar things, which is why so many ultra-educated immigrants from India and Pakistan end up driving taxis in Canada. Physicians unions in the states have complained when foreign doctors have been permitted to work in the country.).

I think you really underestimate the paradox associated with AS and the job market. Entry-level jobs tend to prioritize skills people with Asperger's have a hard time with and "higher level jobs" require years of certification. So, unless you've won a pretty lucrative scholarship or have a parent financially able to support you throughout your years of University, it's tough being an Aspie in the labour market. There have been statistics from ASPIRE in the UK, perhaps not the greatest of studies, but they show that 80% of people diagnosed with Asperger syndrome surveyed for that particular study are unemployed.

I (gasp!) actually agree with you on this one, all too often mandatory certification for certain fields is less about ensuring competence and more about protecting the market from cheaper competition. I've even seen nail salons lobby for stricter certifications for employment to keep Southeast Asian competition out of the market, it's a total abuse of the regulatory system to stifle competition and create high barriers to entry that hurt everyone.

I think the fact that it's extremely difficult for a lawyer in New Jersey to work in New York indicates that the market's overprotected.

1. Don't sell yourself short. You can probably do a hell of alot better than minimum wage with some education, or even without for that matter.

2. You would probably be singing a different tune had you not been born into such a privileged society. Illegal immigrants are people too, and borders/immigration laws are ret*d. All they serve to do is keep the wealth in the hands of privileged people like us and protect our Utopia.

Nah i only do satire and dark irrevernent humour on my puppet show. Im serious on here though.

Yeah well Im really good with puppets and im an awesome satirist but my moron of a dad says that i cant really get a good job with that. and he says that its not realistic to want to be a pupeteer and satirist for a living. I cant really find those kind of jobs right now so I have to work at arbys or subway, at least for the time being, to get him off my back. i am working on getting an agent and trying to show my puppet films in film festivals.

Well there you go guess Im right.

no... you said that illegal immigrants are stealing the jobs...

which is not the same thing as aspies having trouble getting or keeping jobs.

the problem has nothing to do with illegal immigrants.

Indeed, an illegal Hispanic immigrant with Asperger's willing to work for $1.00 an hour would have similar problems keeping a job as most Aspies (perhaps more, as his employers would be less forgiving of slow productivity if the person could get the company into trouble if found to be illegal in addition to the lost time).

Actually, it does make sense to make lawyers certify state to state because the laws do very significantly, it's barring hard science people like doctors and engineers that don't have to deal with regional differences that is purely protectionist.

How do you know they are illegal aliens?



If they work, how are they leeches?



My field requires years of training and a professional degree.



Correction, republicans love cheap labor, and honestly don't care if it's illegal when no one is looking. However anyone employed at a fast food chain likely is paid legal wages.



Honestly if Americans were so hard working they'd be picking in the fields but even the most needy of able bodied Americans refuse to do that unless it is a family profession.



There are no illegal aliens in my field. However there are some very smart legal immigrants.



Or maybe it's because of your own issues.

Count me in on this mutual agreement (and I am a member of two of the professions that engage in it!)

Physicians are pushing back against encroachment in two ways: First, we are incredibly restrictive about what is acceptable as medical education to qualify for admission to practice in Canada. Medical graduates from countries other than Canada and the United States face significant barriers to admission; and there are virtually no opportunities for foreign trained physicians to upgrade their academic qualifications. Second, we are incredibly restrictive about what we define as "medical practice," and work very hard to shut nurse practitioners, midwives and other paraprofessions out of the market. I am a voice in the wilderness among my colleagues on these questions. (sigh)

Lawyers, ironically, are significantly more open, at least in this province. In all Common Law provinces (I think), a holder of a law degree from a foreign common law jurisdiction need only about a year of Canadian legal training to come up to the academic requirements in order to become eligible for articles. A lawyer of sufficient standing is free to obtain a practice license in any of the other jurisdictions with minimal impediment. The only real barrier to transfer is the existence of a Civil Law system in Québec which limits mobility for lawyers trained only in that system, or lawyers seeking to work in that system.

Entertainment is a very difficult field to make any money in rather less a livable wage and you're talking about a niche corner of the market that limits your income potential even more. I'd say you should go to school for something else.

But I think a better initial question is: how much do you expect to be able to make? What do you think your gigs will consist of? How will you make money with it if you can't land those ideal gigs?