Is God considered to be an imaginary friend?

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02 Nov 2010, 10:09 pm

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I think were manifestations of God. I don't see the point in making a distinction between God and man. The more we realize our oneness with God and the universe, the closer we get to God., The more we kill each other and hurt each other and don't do unto others as we'd want done unto ourselves, things in complete conflict to the knowledge of our oneness, the farther we slip from knowing God. I don't see sins as violations against gods wishes, so much as consequences for not loving and respecting each other enough. I also think begging to this God isn't gonna get you anywhere. God's and the rest of the universe isn't going to come to your rescue, because they're too busy running the laws of nature. Humans are the appendage of god only capable for solving their own problems for the most part. I think there's arguments that some consciousness, fractally dispersed through space-time, might make itself known through synchronicity.

I'd like to an extend a theory here. I would agree with you up until this point - I believe everything is fully deliberate. ie, we may have perhaps had some allowance to choose our vessels? That's it. Every movement is locked into the first domino that started it, meaning that absolutely nothing that ever has happened or will happen can be out of God's will or not of God's design - the whole static apparatus of time and matter is his Fracture-style marble track, his Heron play, his Harry Potter novel. The funny thing about prayer though - it may very well work but... this is the kicker... it likely works entirely in reverse from what most people intuitively think. Its not that we decided we need something, ask, and receive but rather all the factors leading up to that decision aren't our own, nor are our upbringings or personalities 'us' (it may say a little about our eternal personalities - that's it), hence the answer to the prayer needing to manifest may actually be the cause - if its a prayer meant to be answered it may be like a bit of Deus Ex Machina in God's pen, hence life changes for those who were being groomed for something in this life and its simply affirmation for those who have things pretty much the way they're supposed to remain. The past is history, the future is history yet to be enacted - the now is simply the 'play' point.



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02 Nov 2010, 11:14 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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I think were manifestations of God. I don't see the point in making a distinction between God and man. The more we realize our oneness with God and the universe, the closer we get to God., The more we kill each other and hurt each other and don't do unto others as we'd want done unto ourselves, things in complete conflict to the knowledge of our oneness, the farther we slip from knowing God. I don't see sins as violations against gods wishes, so much as consequences for not loving and respecting each other enough. I also think begging to this God isn't gonna get you anywhere. God's and the rest of the universe isn't going to come to your rescue, because they're too busy running the laws of nature. Humans are the appendage of god only capable for solving their own problems for the most part. I think there's arguments that some consciousness, fractally dispersed through space-time, might make itself known through synchronicity.

I'd like to an extend a theory here. I would agree with you up until this point - I believe everything is fully deliberate. ie, we may have perhaps had some allowance to choose our vessels? That's it. Every movement is locked into the first domino that started it, meaning that absolutely nothing that ever has happened or will happen can be out of God's will or not of God's design - the whole static apparatus of time and matter is his Fracture-style marble track, his Heron play, his Harry Potter novel. The funny thing about prayer though - it may very well work but... this is the kicker... it likely works entirely in reverse from what most people intuitively think. Its not that we decided we need something, ask, and receive but rather all the factors leading up to that decision aren't our own, nor are our upbringings or personalities 'us' (it may say a little about our eternal personalities - that's it), hence the answer to the prayer needing to manifest may actually be the cause - if its a prayer meant to be answered it may be like a bit of Deus Ex Machina in God's pen, hence life changes for those who were being groomed for something in this life and its simply affirmation for those who have things pretty much the way they're supposed to remain. The past is history, the future is history yet to be enacted - the now is simply the 'play' point.


Well, I think we have our own free will in our own partitioned moments, but we have to compete with the free will of everything and everyone else. This competition, I believe, is what causes laws and limits our free will decisions to a very narrow chasm. We couldn't exist any other way though. Like I think subatomic particles are making free will decisions out of a very limited number of options, just as we are in our human realm. I don't know if its a plan, so much as an outline. I think were the marble track, but were also pieces of God making decisions, and the overall outline that culminates from this is God's will.



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03 Nov 2010, 6:12 am

God is imaginary. Therefore if God is your friend, He is your imaginary friend. If he is not your friend then He is your imaginary non-friend.

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03 Nov 2010, 6:42 am

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God is imaginary. Therefore if God is your friend, He is your imaginary friend. If he is not your friend then He is your imaginary non-friend.

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If he's my imaginary Danny DeVito, does that crush Danny off the usual suspects list?



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04 Nov 2010, 1:42 am

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God is imaginary. Therefore if God is your friend, He is your imaginary friend. If he is not your friend then He is your imaginary non-friend.

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God's kind of a relative term. To some people he's like a very humanized entity with a specific will. To others, God is the larger, overriding scheme that unites all living entities together. God is like pure love in my view. I don't think love is just merely an internal, technical process either. Love and emotion is something way more profound. Its this perfect harmony that has the potential to reveal a connectedness with everyone and everything. God isn't a bearded man in the sky. God is the purest expression of love and balance.



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04 Nov 2010, 8:12 am

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God's kind of a relative term. To some people he's like a very humanized entity with a specific will. To others, God is the larger, overriding scheme that unites all living entities together. God is like pure love in my view. I don't think love is just merely an internal, technical process either. Love and emotion is something way more profound. Its this perfect harmony that has the potential to reveal a connectedness with everyone and everything. God isn't a bearded man in the sky. God is the purest expression of love and balance.


You don't say? How come the Crusades and Jihad happen?

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04 Nov 2010, 8:57 am

ruveyn wrote:
JNathanK wrote:

God's kind of a relative term. To some people he's like a very humanized entity with a specific will. To others, God is the larger, overriding scheme that unites all living entities together. God is like pure love in my view. I don't think love is just merely an internal, technical process either. Love and emotion is something way more profound. Its this perfect harmony that has the potential to reveal a connectedness with everyone and everything. God isn't a bearded man in the sky. God is the purest expression of love and balance.


You don't say? How come the Crusades and Jihad happen?

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Don't confuse religion with one's right to define God in their own way. I have a similar belief about God myself.



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04 Nov 2010, 1:44 pm

God is Michael Jackson.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:28 pm

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God is Michael Jackson.

Won't someone please think of the children?!



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04 Nov 2010, 3:32 pm

I think more than anything, If god wanted to be "invisible" he could do so, If he wanted to remain a mystery he could do that also.

not saying if its right or wrong, but if "all things are possible" with god, then obviously the above situation is not out of the question


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04 Nov 2010, 3:34 pm

Lecks wrote:
Jono wrote:
God is Michael Jackson.

Won't someone please think of the children?!


He certainly was!

Late at night.

In his bed.


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04 Nov 2010, 3:49 pm

Lecks wrote:
Jono wrote:
God is Michael Jackson.

Won't someone please think of the children?!


The "God is Michael Jackson" line is a punchline of a joke someone once told me, having to do with his plastic surgery.



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05 Nov 2010, 3:17 pm

ruveyn wrote:
JNathanK wrote:

God's kind of a relative term. To some people he's like a very humanized entity with a specific will. To others, God is the larger, overriding scheme that unites all living entities together. God is like pure love in my view. I don't think love is just merely an internal, technical process either. Love and emotion is something way more profound. Its this perfect harmony that has the potential to reveal a connectedness with everyone and everything. God isn't a bearded man in the sky. God is the purest expression of love and balance.


You don't say? How come the Crusades and Jihad happen?

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Who said you couldn't have bad interpretations of things? They see the overriding force of the universe as being a bearded man. I see the overriding force as being oneness, and the human concept closest to that is love.