Logically thinking?
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I really believe that the dichotomy goes before Nietzsche. Even further, Nietzsche's distinction is a lot broader, as it isn't just "reason vs emotion". Even further, the "reason vs emotion" dichotomy goes well before Nietzsche. If anything, Nietzsche really deeply opposed the dichotomy due to his view that human beings really reduced down more to their deeper impulses, rather than some being guided by reason, and others being guided by emotion. The latter really seems more implicit in Western rationalism, and the Enlightenment, which makes Hume's skepticism on reason more revolutionary of a conception. Heck, Nietzsche isn't that influential in the circles very likely to hold to this dichotomy, so, I think that the intellectual history you present is likely wrong, 'keet.
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That history was merely what was presented in my humanities textbook, so if the history is wrong then so is the textbook. If you want to call the textbook wrong, I would not be opposed.
That history was merely what was presented in my humanities textbook, so if the history is wrong then so is the textbook. If you want to call the textbook wrong, I would not be opposed.
Unless your professor is a historian of philosophy, then anything it presents on that topic is likely incredibly wrong.
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That history was merely what was presented in my humanities textbook, so if the history is wrong then so is the textbook. If you want to call the textbook wrong, I would not be opposed.
Unless your professor is a historian of philosophy, then anything it presents on that topic is likely incredibly wrong.
What professor? Rash-Mustard Cell-age only hires "instructors" which range from any form of credentials as PhD in Insanity to Drunk Hobo Off The Street.
The textbook was incredibly wrong in many areas, but I hoped they might at least be right about the hero worship they pay to the Darkening of the Western Mind Philosophers.
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Yes, that is how I see things. It is logical (and even if "emotionally logical") to make decisions which make positive emotional responses or feelings at least possible, but decisions are still best-made from logic rather than from emotion. Emotionally-driven decisions can/might be viewed as "emotionally logical", but making decisions in that way is not always (and maybe even seldom) actually wise. From within the party of "Mr. Faith (Belief), Mr. Facts and Mr. Feelings", Mr. Feelings is far from being the dependable leader.
I see emotions as a type of amplifier to motivate actions ...
I would certainly agree there, yet that is where emotions can actually end up ahead of facts and cause trouble ... yet I can still see situations there where emotions can be necessary in relation to the avoidance of apathy or "just giving up" ... such as in some of your work-related experiences.
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That history was merely what was presented in my humanities textbook, so if the history is wrong then so is the textbook. If you want to call the textbook wrong, I would not be opposed.
Unless your professor is a historian of philosophy, then anything it presents on that topic is likely incredibly wrong.
What professor? Rash-Mustard Cell-age only hires "instructors" which range from any form of credentials as PhD in Insanity to Drunk Hobo Off The Street.
The textbook was incredibly wrong in many areas, but I hoped they might at least be right about the hero worship they pay to the Darkening of the Western Mind Philosophers.
Textbooks are usually written by professors of some sort.
iamnotaparakeet
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That history was merely what was presented in my humanities textbook, so if the history is wrong then so is the textbook. If you want to call the textbook wrong, I would not be opposed.
Unless your professor is a historian of philosophy, then anything it presents on that topic is likely incredibly wrong.
What professor? Rash-Mustard Cell-age only hires "instructors" which range from any form of credentials as PhD in Insanity to Drunk Hobo Off The Street.
The textbook was incredibly wrong in many areas, but I hoped they might at least be right about the hero worship they pay to the Darkening of the Western Mind Philosophers.
Textbooks are usually written by professors of some sort.
Good textbooks are usually written by experts of some sort or another, unless they come from Cenage Learning or other textbook mills of the sort where they just churn out crap faster than a horse.
Why take your next breath?
The anwer is because youd rather live.
Why then do you wanna be alive?
Does your desire to be alive come from a slide rule, or a mathmatical therom?
No. Its an instinct, a drive that comes from the gut.
How you survive may involve logic - in holding down a job - but the disire to live- to seek joy- etc- those have nothing to do with logic.
Logic helps provide the means but never the ends.
So there is no such thing as living by pure logic.
The decision to be alive in the first place is an irrational act.
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Breathing is automatic -- I do not recall ever having to decide to breathe!
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Its an instinct, a drive that comes from the gut.
... the desire to live- to seek joy- etc- those have nothing to do with logic.
Possibly not at the conscious level, yet our inherent instincts are certainly logical along the line of providing or driving desire.
How, when or where did we even decide that? And, I am not meaning to be argumentative here.
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If you condense your decision making process into a system of pure logic it will become meaningless; without a goal.
If you reduce it to logically following one static goal it'll be heartless, or boring.
Conversely, if you're guided cheifly by emotion, your television can tell you what to do.
But peaceful.
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Hardly. I have scars from being a cutter and tried to kill myself more than once. The numbness was a sign of clinical depression, and when it did lighten up, I couldn't deal with the emotions that surfaced.
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Hardly. I have scars from being a cutter and tried to kill myself more than once. The numbness was a sign of clinical depression, and when it did lighten up, I couldn't deal with the emotions that surfaced.
That is rather trying. I hope you find an effective way of dealing with your woes.
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