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09 Nov 2010, 9:41 pm

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I have also had an experience. I was an atheist before it occurred.

There is no good reason for some people in this forum to accuse this person of being deluded. In fact it runs counter to the rules of the forum.

Delusion is not an insult, it is a medical condition and requires therapy.

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09 Nov 2010, 9:43 pm

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Whoa ! Do you mean to say that if some one is out of touch with reality we are not allowed to tell him he is out of touch with reality?

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09 Nov 2010, 10:14 pm

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i dont want this to be known worldwide, as it could cause trouble, its best to keep a low profile about this.

Last I checked, most of these forum discussions are instantaneously pushed to Google, so you may want to check on that if you're wanting to keep this low key.

Yes, God is good -- but it's also benefical to walk circumspectly in situations where you don't know this guy that well. People ought to be acknowledging boundaries and personal space, regardless of the theology.

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09 Nov 2010, 10:23 pm

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Delusion is not an insult, it is a medical condition and requires therapy.

Or if it is clear that someone is out of touch with reality. Even sane people have their insane moments, particularly under stress.

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09 Nov 2010, 10:30 pm

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As 'good' is a subjective term I'll assume you're ignorant of any potential 'good' reason. There is, however, no justification for you to suggest there is no 'valid' reason, which is what I believe you meant.

If you feel it is appropriate to dictate ethics to a forum full of people you do not know, it is far more valid for someone else to make an observation based on what an individual posts.

My experiences here and elsewhere suggest that atheists are far more tolerant of divergent beliefs and attitudes to their own. What does that say for Christian values?

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09 Nov 2010, 10:44 pm

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Some people do evil things so there is such a thing as evil. Evil is a property applicable to acts made by sentient and volitional beings.

Evil is not real. Just acts that serve to hurt others. Not evil, though...just a bad ratio of benefit to hurt.

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09 Nov 2010, 10:45 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Sand wrote:

91 wrote:

Delusion is not an insult, it is a medical condition and requires therapy.

Or if it is clear that someone is out of touch with reality. Even sane people have their insane moments, particularly under stress.

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"Coping mechanism".

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09 Nov 2010, 10:51 pm

So hurt is real. Seems like the word "hurt" is the whole point of that other word?

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10 Nov 2010, 12:09 am

there is light, and there is less light.

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10 Nov 2010, 12:12 am

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So hurt is real. Seems like the word "hurt" is the whole point of that other word?

It's not evil to the person benefiting from it.

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10 Nov 2010, 12:58 am

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91 wrote:

Delusion is not an insult, it is a medical condition and requires therapy.

Assuming the person is deluded though, what if he is telling the truth and isn't deluded? There have been numerous reports of visitations by Angels, you can't tell me every single one of the people whom sited an Angel are either deluded or lieing.

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10 Nov 2010, 2:16 am

Inuyasha wrote:

Sand wrote:

91 wrote:

Delusion is not an insult, it is a medical condition and requires therapy.

It seems quite evident I can't. So I won't bother anymore.

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10 Nov 2010, 3:59 am

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"Coping mechanism".

Whatever.

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10 Nov 2010, 9:25 am

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So hurt is real. Seems like the word "hurt" is the whole point of that other word?

It's not evil to the person benefiting from it.

I guess that's why they created judicial systems and prisons then?

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10 Nov 2010, 9:42 am

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there is light, and there is less light.

I went on a cave exploration tour once and when we got to the deepest section of the tour, the guide shut the lights off inside the cave.

It got less light reeeeeeeeaaaaaally quick. :wink:

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10 Nov 2010, 11:19 am

Maranatha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Maranatha wrote:

So hurt is real. Seems like the word "hurt" is the whole point of that other word?

It's not evil to the person benefiting from it.

I guess that's why they created judicial systems and prisons then?

Yes, to prevent the parasites. Unfortunately the parasites now own such control systems (what a shocker, something that seeks to gain power would gain power).

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