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16 Nov 2010, 1:47 pm

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You were the one talking about cutting costs by not allowing certain treatments. Sounds like a death panel to me.



No I wasn't. Learn to read. I was commenting on how the conservatives argue on both sides of the healthcare debate (spending too much and yet cutting corners and setting up "death panels" to deny healthcare). Nothing to do with commenting on actual policies in place. Just how stupid conservatives are that some of you jackasses actually argue out of both sides of your mouths at once and have no clue that you're contradicting yourself.


Uh huh, I hate to break this to you but the Jackass is the symbol of the Democrat Party.

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Again, does this miraculous denial of reality work with mirrors, too?


I wouldn't know, I think that is something you would know one way or the other cause I'm not the one denying reality.


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16 Nov 2010, 4:54 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
You were the one talking about cutting costs by not allowing certain treatments. Sounds like a death panel to me.



No I wasn't. Learn to read. I was commenting on how the conservatives argue on both sides of the healthcare debate (spending too much and yet cutting corners and setting up "death panels" to deny healthcare). Nothing to do with commenting on actual policies in place. Just how stupid conservatives are that some of you jackasses actually argue out of both sides of your mouths at once and have no clue that you're contradicting yourself.


Uh huh, I hate to break this to you but the Jackass is the symbol of the Democrat Party.


And yet the republicans are the ones stubbornly refusing to move.


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16 Nov 2010, 7:10 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
You were the one talking about cutting costs by not allowing certain treatments. Sounds like a death panel to me.



No I wasn't. Learn to read. I was commenting on how the conservatives argue on both sides of the healthcare debate (spending too much and yet cutting corners and setting up "death panels" to deny healthcare). Nothing to do with commenting on actual policies in place. Just how stupid conservatives are that some of you jackasses actually argue out of both sides of your mouths at once and have no clue that you're contradicting yourself.


Uh huh, I hate to break this to you but the Jackass is the symbol of the Democrat Party.


And yet the republicans are the ones stubbornly refusing to move.


And thank goodness they are refusing to jump off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings because they aren't stupid.



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17 Nov 2010, 11:45 am

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And thank goodness they are refusing to jump off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings because they aren't stupid.


Yeah...not jumping off a cliff; just shoving everyone else off.


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17 Nov 2010, 12:21 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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And thank goodness they are refusing to jump off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings because they aren't stupid.


Yeah...not jumping off a cliff; just shoving everyone else off.


Actually it is the Democrats jumping off the cliff and trying to shove other people off the cliff.



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17 Nov 2010, 12:26 pm

You're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

Can't we all agree that no one knows how to fix the problems we're currently having?

No, you're stupid!

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17 Nov 2010, 1:06 pm

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You're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

Can't we all agree that no one knows how to fix the problems we're currently having?

No, you're stupid!

:roll:


Obviously the republicans have no clue how to fix anything given that their total control of the branches of the US government resulted in A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.


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17 Nov 2010, 1:14 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Lecks wrote:
You're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

Can't we all agree that no one knows how to fix the problems we're currently having?

No, you're stupid!

:roll:


Obviously the republicans have no clue how to fix anything given that their total control of the branches of the US government resulted in A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.


I've already proven that argument was complete and total bull.

The housing bubble was started with the Community Reinvestment Act under President Jimmy Carter. It was exasperated under President Bill Clinton. I also pointed out that both President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain tried repeatedly to stop Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac only to be stonewalled by Democrats.

Look at the campaign ad I posted, then use Google to type in the key words.



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17 Nov 2010, 1:32 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i39AOSJQdhs[/youtube]


Whistle blower coming out to describe attack Michael Moore's exposé on healthcare in America.


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17 Nov 2010, 1:36 pm

Really I could care less what Michael Moore says.



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17 Nov 2010, 2:26 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Really I could care less what Michael Moore says.


We already know that the truth and legitimate information doesn't interest you.


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17 Nov 2010, 2:30 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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Really I could care less what Michael Moore says.


We already know that the truth and legitimate information doesn't interest you.


There is also the matter that Michael Moore is 150 pure snot. I have gone one on one with Moore. He is a very superficial non-thinker with a very bad attitude.

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17 Nov 2010, 2:43 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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Really I could care less what Michael Moore says.


We already know that the truth and legitimate information doesn't interest you.


Quit projecting your faults onto me.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:10 pm

Ordinarily I wouldn't resurrect a thread, but some new developments have occurred.

One of the largest union-administered health-insurance funds in New York is dropping coverage for the children of more than 30,000 low-wage home attendants, union officials said. The union blamed financial problems it said were caused by the state’s health department and new national health-insurance requirements.

The fund is administered by 1199SEIU United Healthcare Workers East, an affiliate of the Service Employees International Union. Union officials said the state compelled the fund to start buying coverage from a third party, which increased premiums by 60%. State health officials denied forcing the union fund to make the switch, saying the fund had been struggling financially even before the switch to third-party coverage.

The fund informed its members late last month that their dependents will no longer be covered as of Jan. 1, 2011. Currently about 6,000 children are covered by the benefit fund, some until age 23.


http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/11 ... -children/
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... ren/67248/

Didn't SEIU support Obamacare?


On a seperate front:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/02/d ... th-panels/

Looks like some people owe Sarah Palin and apology.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:28 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Lecks wrote:
You're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

Can't we all agree that no one knows how to fix the problems we're currently having?

No, you're stupid!

:roll:


Obviously the republicans have no clue how to fix anything given that their total control of the branches of the US government resulted in A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.


I've already proven that argument was complete and total bull.

The housing bubble was started with the Community Reinvestment Act under President Jimmy Carter. It was exasperated under President Bill Clinton. I also pointed out that both President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain tried repeatedly to stop Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac only to be stonewalled by Democrats.

Look at the campaign ad I posted, then use Google to type in the key words.

And that particular right-wing meme has already been refuted a million times. The subprime boom didn't occur until around 1999-2000.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:31 pm

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Lecks wrote:
You're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

No, you're stupid!

Can't we all agree that no one knows how to fix the problems we're currently having?

No, you're stupid!

:roll:


Obviously the republicans have no clue how to fix anything given that their total control of the branches of the US government resulted in A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.


I've already proven that argument was complete and total bull.

The housing bubble was started with the Community Reinvestment Act under President Jimmy Carter. It was exasperated under President Bill Clinton. I also pointed out that both President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain tried repeatedly to stop Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac only to be stonewalled by Democrats.

Look at the campaign ad I posted, then use Google to type in the key words.

And that particular right-wing meme has already been refuted a million times. The subprime boom didn't occur until around 1999-2000.


Actually, your argument makes absolutely no sense because President George W. Bush took office in January 2001, and tried to get this problem fixed in 2003.

2003 unless space-time is out of wack is after 1999-2000.