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Which of these traits is the worst?
Selfishness 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Closed-mindedness/Intolerance 57%  57%  [ 12 ]
Irresponsibleness 29%  29%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 21

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28 Nov 2010, 9:29 am

ruveyn wrote:
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Intolerance first, because I need people to tolerate my irresponsibility.

Then selfishness. I never see any real good reason for people to be selfish, except that they are people.


Where are you on the matter or rational self interests.

If your child and a neighbor's child is drowning and you can only save one, which one do you save?

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Neither act would be selfish as the parent in the story would be best served, selfishly speaking, by staying out of the water.



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28 Nov 2010, 7:26 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Intolerance first, because I need people to tolerate my irresponsibility.

Then selfishness. I never see any real good reason for people to be selfish, except that they are people.


Where are you on the matter or rational self interests.

If your child and a neighbor's child is drowning and you can only save one, which one do you save?

ruveyn


I'd go for my own, I assume, and no one would blame me for it, I guess. Because most people act like that; 'my kids come first'. I wouldn't call someone who saved his own child but couldn't also save another person's child selfish.

I don't think self interest is always the same as selfishness, if that's what you are asking.


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28 Nov 2010, 8:31 pm

Probably irresponsibility. You can't justify it in any situation.



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28 Nov 2010, 9:00 pm

Being religious. It means that you will never accept some things for fact.


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29 Nov 2010, 12:04 am

Long-term selfishness (or rational self-interest) shades into reciprocal altruism which in turn shades into genuine altruism.


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29 Nov 2010, 5:22 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Long-term selfishness (or rational self-interest) shades into reciprocal altruism which in turn shades into genuine altruism.


The only genuine altruism is that which prospers the human condition. Anything else is self-immolation.

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29 Nov 2010, 5:54 am

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Why do you think hypocrisy is so corrosive?

because a sense of mutual fair play is what makes the world go 'round. when a person is getting cheated and disrespected for no good reason, they will naturally want to take their ball and go home. if everybody does this, then you have a moral gridlock where nobody will put themselves out for anybody else for any reason.