Human Cloning

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I find the whole human cloning to be less tricky ethically.

Whole humans is a hairball of ugly legal issues though.

Most likely you would end up with cell theft, illegal cloning of celebrities and sexual/slavery. Vanity clones wouldn't be the big issue.

I don't see the legal issues as being too messy—just a fairly straightforward policy that you can't clone someone without their express consent. All forms of slavery would be illegal as they are now.

I tend to think that as soon as human cloning is proven possible most western governments will outlaw it. In terms of cost/benefit in relation to full human cloning I can't see enough of a benefit in making it legal to outweigh the general ethical issues.

There's already a good deal of pesky things you could do if you have such access to a celebrity's cells. Which I think for accurate you would need to have the celebrity in completely disabled of willness state to correctly extract the theoretical cell you could clone.

You could, for example, kidnap a famous guy to steal his sperm and use it in some in vitro fertilizations and have an army of children for this famous person. That's feasible now provided you can actually get the sperm. Too good no one does it right now because the world is not that crazy.

I think that once proven safe, human cloning will be initially illegal but it will become legal. Because a lot of powerful rich people would be interested in the 'immortality' aspect of it. That tends to be the weak point among rich people, they have everything but they will die one day...

At the moment there is no evidence that any particular individual possesses physiological characteristics that would make it worthwhile to generate duplicates of value to the human species in general or for specific genealogical or medical purposes but genetic engineering is in its very early technological development. Things may change. Human ethics is pretty plastic when it comes to economic advantage.

The minute viable full human cloning comes about I see the military having the market on it. Find the "prime" soldiers and clone the crap out of them rather than train whoever they can recruit.

At this rate, a robot army is more likely and possibly going to be cheaper than a clone army.

Would they consider clones to be people though, they were grown in test tubes afterall. Sorry but just cause you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Yes, of course they would. Children produced via IVF are considered people.

Whether people "should" clone is a different issue. I don't really see the value to human cloning.

"a lot of powerful rich people would be interested in the 'immortality' aspect of it. "

The more fools they, then, unless that consciousness transfer technique gets perfected. Is Elvis willing to die in agony as a genetically matching Elvis impersonator takes over the act?

Identical twins are clones and they are considered people.

ruveyn

They are fools. But it is irrelevant in this case if they are fools or not. They will still have the will and power to make it legal.

I don't think the ethical issues are that large though. The same ethical issues basically arise with anything involving genetic information. Cloning itself seems pretty tame though.

I can see outlawing it, but the reason will likely be "ickiness", more so than any special problem with cloning. The worst thing cloning could have against it is if it proves a very risky or problematic way to create offspring. Other than that, it seems no worse than sperm donation or anything else.

Individual organs outside the body I guess would ethically be okay if that's even possible and safe for organ transplants but certainly no to complete human cloning. I think all of you folks are against human cloning for organ harvesting right? I don't think human cloning that creates a life should ever be allowed to happen.

I oppose natalism and reproduction of humans in general.
I think it is bad enough that everytime people have sex we risk in having another person in this world, and that humanity keeps having new generations.
As said here, I really don't see the value in human cloning. Why would you want to clone yourself to begin with? If you want someone carrying on your genes, are you that megalomaniac to want a person carrying only your genes, and not of another person, as well, in the normal reproductive process?

As for organ cloning to save people's life, or just to help their medical condition or whatever, I don't see a problem with that.

Last edited by Omerik on 09 Dec 2010, 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

In other words, you are against life since no living thing lives forever.