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skafather84
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18 Dec 2010, 4:11 pm

I don't have any myself (I've got better things in mind to spend my money on) but I have nothing against tattoos and think they look pretty cool. Body modification can be pretty cool, in general.


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18 Dec 2010, 5:22 pm

Ok, I have responses to most of your responses.

@Raymond Fawkes- Thanks, it is so true that tattoos are unoriginal, and the diseases from the tattoos are real. I looked it up, and there are many diseases from tattoos. For instance, this website explains it unbiasedly: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=21341

@Philologos- It isn't bad to have your ears pierced, but I would rather not go through it, and what is the story about it saving your life???

@leejosepho- lol, very cheesy

@auntblabby- I know, right. God made us beautiful so we could stay that way, and enjoy the blessing of that, not so we could draw all over ourselves.

@EnglishLulu- Just like RF said, it is waaaaaay more cool not to have a tattoo. Plus what if they make a mistake, or something of the likes. Oh, and those pictures are disgusting, and they should show those (plus worse ones) to make people really understand the permanency of tattoos. (I would seriously cry if my skin was covered with all those, it would just make me feel dirty).

@Phil777- Anything these days is being called art, and if it's going to be that way, why don't we just mess up everything pretty, twist it and contort it, scratch it and break it, until it is weird and unidentifiable and call it "art" Oh, and there are probably worse off people with tattoos. Your parents are right to freak out. Although it is her right to get one, it is a bad choice. Just like it is anyone (over 21) right to drink, does that mean we should all be drunk all the time and not care about anything.

@ EnglishLulu- (again) That is scary that he has a communist tattoo and the ying-yang thing sounds awful. Oh, and I LOVE your comment about trends and fashions because it is so true.

@auntblabby- (again) Sunday School teachers??? and it will end with our annihilation. It will end when we are so messed up that we are ruined. People don't realize that once they have ruined their body, they don't get another one.

@Jacoby- Exactamundo! The permanence is so frightening and awful that I don't understand it. But, about the ones you love, I don't think they would want you to ruin your body to remember them when they are dead. I mean, look at Ph7's parents, they freaked out when their child was alive, I don' think they will change their mind when they are dead.

@Banned_Magnus- God DOES care about tattoos though

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

You are right that we should not worship our bodies, but we should also take care of them.

Why do we take care of our body, because it is the lords, and I think the Lord wants us to keep his temples clean and nice and healthy. People can obviously take it to an extreme, anything , any idea can be taken to an extreme. If people care about their appearance too much, then it is superficial. But, if they put some care into it (like a healthy amount)then that is what god wants. It is not materialistic to wear nice clothes if you can afford it, and you have paid your dues to other things, as long as you don't think you are better than other people for your clothes (same for any other possession). Jesus would say that as long as you are trying to make a difference, and contribute to charities and pay your tithing (we have 10% in our church) then we are fine to splurge a little and be happy. BTW, final thing, I am not trying to judge people for getting tattoos. I am trying to show the negative consequences for getting them, and persuade them not to get them. If someone gets a tattoo, I am not going to shun them or be rude or call them stupid names, I am just trying to say that I do not think their choice is wise and back up my opinion.

@Descartes- Look up 1st corinthians 6:19-20 (or better yet, scroll up this response, and I have it posted there.) It is not YOUR body, it is God's body. He has given you free agency to do whatever you want to do with it, but does that mean you should do whatever to it. If someone gave you the chance to eat live scorpions, would you do it? It is totally your choice. But you wouldn't, because they would sting you and hurt you and it would be gross. It is the same idea, but tattoos just don't seem as bad because the danger isn't as obvious as eating a bunch of live scorpions.

@JasonGone- Look up at my response to RF

@number5- I care because I don't want people making stupid mistakes with their life. I want everybody to be educated. Apathy is what causes problems, if we can minimize the amount of apathy for a lot of problems in this world, it would be a semi-better place.

@skafather84- Body modification is cool...look at AB's response, and think about that, is it really cool?



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18 Dec 2010, 6:23 pm

chrissyrun wrote:
@skafather84- Body modification is cool...look at AB's response, and think about that, is it really cool?


Had a girlfriend with pierced tits before and it was awesome. As far as anything else goes, it's all personal taste and what one likes not just in aesthetics but also feeling sensation. Tongue piercings, clit piercings, prince alberts, jacob's ladders (frenum ladder)...they all have some function beyond just aesthetic. And the stuff that is just aesthetic is cool, too. I've got no problem with people's mods.

So yeah...I've thought about it and YES it is really cool.


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18 Dec 2010, 6:39 pm

I'm sure.



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18 Dec 2010, 6:40 pm

@Banned_Magnus- God DOES care about tattoos though

Oh really? Okay. Thanks for telling me. :roll:

Are you joking with this thread? Is this a joke and are you real? I don't believe it. I'm wincing trying to understand if this is serious or not. Is that poem supposed to be funny? I hate it when I don't get jokes and laugh at inappropiate times.



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18 Dec 2010, 6:56 pm

@BM

It is serious and not serious.
The poem is for fun, and the topic is somewhat serious.
You can laugh at it if you want, I just wanted to see how people felt about it and discuss it.



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18 Dec 2010, 8:46 pm

skafather84 wrote:
chrissyrun wrote:
@skafather84- Body modification is cool...look at AB's response, and think about that, is it really cool?


Had a girlfriend with pierced tits before and it was awesome. As far as anything else goes, it's all personal taste and what one likes not just in aesthetics but also feeling sensation. Tongue piercings, clit piercings, prince alberts, jacob's ladders (frenum ladder)...they all have some function beyond just aesthetic. And the stuff that is just aesthetic is cool, too. I've got no problem with people's mods.

So yeah...I've thought about it and YES it is really cool.


Now that's a trip down memory lane... :)



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18 Dec 2010, 8:48 pm

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@number5- I care because I don't want people making stupid mistakes with their life. I want everybody to be educated. Apathy is what causes problems, if we can minimize the amount of apathy for a lot of problems in this world, it would be a semi-better place.


Homelessness is a problem. Cancer is a problem. Tattoos - not so much.



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18 Dec 2010, 9:24 pm

I am rather fascinated by people who declare their authority on God's taste. I doubt they even know what their goldfish thinks about Vermeer's paintings or whether their dog is fond of Mickey Mouse.
Some Japanese tattoos are beautiful art but the average tattoo I have seen is in the area of graffiti scrawled on lavatory walls. I am waiting to see tattoos expanded into body screens where they can be animated and changed with the mood of the owner. A body screen that can actually change with nervous system and body condition would have interesting medical usage.



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18 Dec 2010, 9:34 pm

chrissyrun wrote:
@Descartes- Look up 1st corinthians 6:19-20 (or better yet, scroll up this response, and I have it posted there.) It is not YOUR body, it is God's body. He has given you free agency to do whatever you want to do with it, but does that mean you should do whatever to it. If someone gave you the chance to eat live scorpions, would you do it? It is totally your choice. But you wouldn't, because they would sting you and hurt you and it would be gross. It is the same idea, but tattoos just don't seem as bad because the danger isn't as obvious as eating a bunch of live scorpions.


I'm not religious, so the religious argument doesn't work on me.

Also, no, I would not eat live scorpions because that would actually do harm to my body. Body modification is not dangerous, provided the needle is not infected and the tattoo artist knows what he's doing.



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19 Dec 2010, 1:58 am

chrissyrun wrote:
This is a poem explaining how I feel about tattoos:

Take my word and leave your temple clean, or let the world destroy it with images obscene.
For it is a place where your soul is stored, and a tattoo just means that it is ignored.
Your body is amazing, and if you can't see, that it works its best toxin-free
If you don't understand that a tattoo is bad, let me tell you this, it will make you sad.
I will leave you with one closing thought, this is the only body you've got.
If you mess it up, there is no redo, so think a little bit before getting a tattoo.

Tell me what you think about tattoos!


as a person who has been getting tattooed longer than you have been alive and tattooing professionally for 14 years i wonder what you think of me?
personally i find your attitude insulting and judgmental. and you have very very little chance of educating me on tattoos and the chances of spreading any blood-borne pathogens through the process. if you desire real information on the subject look up the numbers the CDC has on the subject. or you can ask me about the methods used in my industry to safeguard ourselves from such dangers.
as far as the body goes the body belongs to me... my body is my own property and i can do with it as i choose. just as you and everyone else will and can do with theirs as they choose. please save your sermons for church groups and those that ask for them.


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19 Dec 2010, 3:49 am

skafather84 wrote:
chrissyrun wrote:
@skafather84- Body modification is cool...look at AB's response, and think about that, is it really cool?


Had a girlfriend with pierced tits before and it was awesome. As far as anything else goes, it's all personal taste and what one likes not just in aesthetics but also feeling sensation. Tongue piercings, clit piercings, prince alberts, jacob's ladders (frenum ladder)...they all have some function beyond just aesthetic. And the stuff that is just aesthetic is cool, too. I've got no problem with people's mods.

So yeah...I've thought about it and YES it is really cool.
I you don't mind me asking, what was so awesome about your girlfriend's pierced tits? I know they're an erogenous zone for women, so I can vaguely understand that she might get something out of it, but why did you find them awesome? What did you get out of it?

Oh, yeah, you've just reminded me of a friend with a frenum ladder. He showed it to me. 8O :oops: I'd heard of Prince Albert piercings years ago, because another housemate's boyfriend had one of those, and he dropped his pants in our sitting room and showed it to us all while he was waiting for her to finish getting ready. (He was a bodybuilder and a bit of an exhibitionist!)

But when I heard of the frenum ladder I was intrigued and Googled and came across all kinds of weird and erm 'wonderful' piercings. But in all honesty, I don't know how people can do that.



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20 Dec 2010, 5:58 am

i don't remember who said it but i've found it to be true: the primary difference between people with tattoos and people without tattoos is that the people with tattoos don't care that the other group doesn't have them.

i've been tattooed since i was 17 years old and pierced since i was 19. i feel that the primary issue is aesthetics. for nearly every culture that forbids tattoos as profane there is another culture that utilizes them for the sacred.

for me, both kinds of body modification were part of a personal rite of passage. i didn't get them to impress anyone and i likewise don't give a damn who they offend. i have a slightly less common facial piercing that i sometimes conceal not because i'm ashamed of it, but because in some situations it is so distracting/fascinating, i want to keep the focus on the task at hand and not on my face.



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20 Dec 2010, 1:22 pm

My dad says he'll disown me if i ever get a tattoo.

Personally i don't care anyway, since i hadn't planned on it. I don't even have pierced ears for petes sake, let alone getting covered in ink and needles and painfulness. ugh!

If other people do it, i don't really think it's a big deal though. I don't find tattoos attractive. but who cares?!

Theres so much to be worrying about instead of this....


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24 Dec 2010, 12:17 am

The body isn't a temple, so much as it's an amusement park...one with a limited pass too. It also makes an excellent canvas, one that can express a person's inward world just as well as any. That being said, a skillfully applied, well-designed tattoo is a thing of beauty; a bad one is just sad. Our bodies, as they are born, are a gift from God/Nature, but they are like a bare house. It is up to us to adorn them as we see fit, whether with clothes, haircuts, or more permanent displays.



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24 Dec 2010, 12:41 am

Personally i'd love to have my family coat of arms tattooed on my back.

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