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03 Jan 2011, 12:21 am

I almost hope Bloomberg runs, just so I can enjoy the pleasure of voting against his ass.

The one guy I'd actually like to see run is Gary Johnson, the former New Mexico governor. I don't know about his chances, but it would be nice to be able to vote without holding my nose.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/ ... republican


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03 Jan 2011, 12:25 am

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Thats your president your talking about Inuyasha. No respect anymore. Utterly ridiculous.


Well, ordinarily you would be correct and I don't make the statements I made lightly. Look up the Black Panther Polling voter intimidation incident and how Obama's DoJ dismissed the charges after there had already been a conviction.

Voter intimidation is a serious crime, people are not supposed to be hanging around a polling place with clubs.



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03 Jan 2011, 12:25 am

Hopefully he does well, something like this could begin to set wheels in motion for more useful politicians(oxymoron?).



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03 Jan 2011, 12:30 am

ikorack wrote:
Hopefully he does well, something like this could begin to set wheels in motion for more useful politicians(oxymoron?).


I am a little hesitant because of the source of the article. I would trust it more if there was some corroboration from a Conservative blog like Hotair.com.



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03 Jan 2011, 12:42 am

Inuyasha wrote:
ikorack wrote:
Thats your president your talking about Inuyasha. No respect anymore. Utterly ridiculous.


Well, ordinarily you would be correct and I don't make the statements I made lightly. Look up the Black Panther Polling voter intimidation incident and how Obama's DoJ dismissed the charges after there had already been a conviction.

Voter intimidation is a serious crime, people are not supposed to be hanging around a polling place with clubs.


I addressed this in your PM, regardless of the moral questionability of his actions to accuse him of being a sociopath capable of selling off his mate and children for political power is ridiculous and shows a complete lack of respect for the highest office in the American government.



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03 Jan 2011, 1:05 am

Dox47 wrote:
I almost hope Bloomberg runs, just so I can enjoy the pleasure of voting against his ass.

The one guy I'd actually like to see run is Gary Johnson, the former New Mexico governor. I don't know about his chances, but it would be nice to be able to vote without holding my nose.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/ ... republican


Gary Johnson is good. I think he will probably run but drop out before Iowa. If Ron Paul doesn't run, I could get behind a Gary Johnson bid but I don't think he will have much of a chance in the republican primary though because of his support of abortion. He seems to have gotten the image as "the pot guy" lately which probably won't help him either. I wish he would run for senate in 2012 in New Mexico instead of running for president.



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03 Jan 2011, 1:45 am

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I don't think Obama will have a second term unless he can go to the middle like Bill Clinton did and I don't see him capable of doing that because he's an ideologue and not very pragmatic.


You're talking about the same Obama who offered to the Republicans what the Republicans offered to Clinton in terms of Healthcare reform? You really have a schewed perception of what an "ideologue" is, because in my mind it requires much more than a minimal committement to ideological principles (which the compromiser in chief lacks).

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Also people who think Sarah Palin couldn't beat Obama should look at the election between Carter and Reagan. The Democrats thought Reagan couldn't beat Carter, but Carter was defeated in a landslide.


The Actor who played President, however, was at least somewhat likeable.


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03 Jan 2011, 1:55 am

The shear amount of mental masturbation going on in this thread (especially on the part of the OP) is quite entertaining. Image


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03 Jan 2011, 1:56 am

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The shear amount of mental masturbation going on in this thread (especially on the part of the OP) is quite entertaining. Image


Arguable the most sanitary form of masturbation.



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03 Jan 2011, 1:56 am

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The shear amount of mental masturbation going on in this thread (especially on the part of the OP) is quite entertaining. Image


The sheer amount of projection in your post is quite entertaining.


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03 Jan 2011, 2:01 am

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John_Browning wrote:
The shear amount of mental masturbation going on in this thread (especially on the part of the OP) is quite entertaining. Image


The sheer amount of projection in your post is quite entertaining.

Seriously, do any of your ruminations on American politics ever amount to anything?


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03 Jan 2011, 2:04 am

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Seriously, do any of your ruminations on American politics ever amount to anything?


They amount to some serious truthfulness.


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03 Jan 2011, 2:11 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Seriously, do any of your ruminations on American politics ever amount to anything?


They amount to some serious truthfulness.

I'll take that as a no.


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03 Jan 2011, 2:42 am

The main problem remains - and everyone knew this when Obama was seen as some kind of hope - and that's the plutocracy has an absolute stranglehold on the system, one that rigs the system better than Iran's Guardian Council can even think of doing. People were in denial about Obama's nature because they were saying to themselves that "this is the best that's possible"... and there was this strange hope that he'd reveal himself to be better than a plutocracy approved product, that he just had to talk a good plutocratic game to be elected. This is evidence of a severe lack of democracy.



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03 Jan 2011, 3:16 am

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The main problem remains - and everyone knew this when Obama was seen as some kind of hope - and that's the plutocracy has an absolute stranglehold on the system, one that rigs the system better than Iran's Guardian Council can even think of doing. People were in denial about Obama's nature because they were saying to themselves that "this is the best that's possible"... and there was this strange hope that he'd reveal himself to be better than a plutocracy approved product, that he just had to talk a good plutocratic game to be elected. This is evidence of a severe lack of democracy.

Obama had a sweeping new agenda. That was clear from his speeches, campaign promises, and judges he appointed. It's not for a lack of effort that Obama didn't keep his promises. He didn't have enough widespread support from the people or enough widespread support from congress to implement his private agenda by himself like he was hoping to do, so he had to negotiate with the establishment.


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03 Jan 2011, 1:36 pm

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Obama had a sweeping new agenda. That was clear from his speeches, campaign promises, and judges he appointed. It's not for a lack of effort that Obama didn't keep his promises. He didn't have enough widespread support from the people or enough widespread support from congress to implement his private agenda by himself like he was hoping to do, so he had to negotiate with the establishment.

Really? He didn't have enough "widespread support from the people" to allow the Bush tax cuts for the top 2% to expire? How is 67% of the electorate not "widespread support?"


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