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10 Jan 2011, 5:42 am

However if you want my prophesy then the world-wide economy and economic system will collapse in the next year or two.

What will happen after that is anybody's guess but it will involve the deaths of millions if not billions of people from starvation and disease, rioting and civil war.



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10 Jan 2011, 6:21 am

Well judging from the working atmosphere up here in Cangzhou Hebei China.... The party will collapse. We haven't been paid, my company, or semi paid (enough to live off, and keep production), but there are signs either the big guys are ready to flee. They seem to be "out for lunch" ALOT, power outages, riots. Prior to coming down to Shanghai, for Christmas. There was huge HUGE brohaha at gas stations, they haven been filled since Mid December, Alcholism is rampant, especially if you have to chose to fuel your car with Ethanol boozenol, or drink it down. And due to lack of coherency children are often seen running around during school time. And this is just a Tuson like city, Small but growing! this problem is compounded all over China. Cops are hardly seen anymore. Just the uber geeky boyscout like Militias, (those stereotypical idiots in Green uniforms). One dad, while driving to home back to the aparment, a truck load of soldiers and a police escort were frantically columning down a CROWED highway (Chinese drive like.... well they try to merge 5 cars into ONE time and space cordinate.... my taxi).

The China has been like this since 2005. But now it's really starting to go all screwy their so called Obsidian order! If anything they'll be replaced by a civilian interm government, with perhaps monitors to help transition other parties (see China has the central party, but each province, and or administrative region has their own respective parties too, worse case senario they still claim leadership if the Central government in Bejing falls, as is always the patern). There's always infrastructure damage during the end of dynasties, and irregular weather. The 3 Gorges dam may or may not survive, it probably will as it's new. But certainly not the freeways of say a small city like Zhuhai (on the Macao China border), eventually I'll be sent there perhaps in March. (There I shall graffiti, the names of the 2008 Schewan earthquake children. You know the ones who's birth certificates suddenly went missing). This is their lastest mass murder body count (although an act of God this time, their response wasn't, no wait it was the party member's fault, he cheaped out on material (no steel rebars in the cement, those cost like bloody 25 cents to make a piece in China, I know! I bought some for my co-worker!)

I was surprised to watch the news in Macau, this New Years.... it was about again.... tainted food. Sort of like the one that kills American pets, Like you're a little child, a little girl rasing a big happy dog who loves you, who yipps when you come near, or a little kitty... then China comes and poisons your pet.... Then there's the poisonous toothpaste, poisonous baby milk, Macau being Free China. is allowed to post whatever they want. It's like a seperate country... They were doing an expose on Chinese food.. Wow, news in China, the English news, talks about useless things like fashion, business, news, but really artsy fartsy B.S, and Chinese, Comedy (two man Albert and Constello like diatribes), and rehashing old WWII Glory of fighting the Japanese, and how Mao is great.... Or how America is going to India, or some propaganda about their army. This is less common in the South towards Hong Kong Zhuhai, Macao, there shows are actualy entertaining. But people are suffering in the cold, getting sick, getting the cold shoulder from the hospitals for being black toothed peasants. Health is very poor even in Shanghai.

With the eventual collapse of Europe, China's support, especially Germany, (Belgem is basically non functional, and riots are happening all over Europe). It's interesting that we would live in such pivotal and volatile times as our turn of the century ancestors did. the Sochi games would be the Last olympics for the People's Republic of China....

How will China disolve? not through Obamaism (if he's elected for a second term), it'll be the Chinese people themselves, as mentioned with the rowdy sentiments, but through peaceful means, such as desimiation of information, (people know all about how rich and S the party is, since the ancient Heveanly Kingdom of Qi), but this time, with techonology being a great equalizer, the Chinese can actually see, how well Party Members live, (I've sat on a heated toliet that had a butt washer! in a German Bank in Shanghai). They will see how South Koreans live, more damning for the great party. More Chinese are able to travel, to other parts of China especially the poverty or semi poverty middle middle kingdom, and see how Chinese live in Affluent places! And they are P.Oed! very ver P.O.ed (see my above rant about riots). Like these coal miners always go bezerk and trash the office, when their loved ones are incinerated, squished... Christian missionaries desimminate this information, and the Bible already outweights the alloted 500,000/year quota. (The Great Firewall of China, has holes, it can't keep out ALL biblical information, in rural parts of course, but in populated cities, in middle China no). Christianity won't be a dominante religion in China, or Asia, never. But it would be a sizable one.

This statistic is probably keeping the Party Awake, as is tollerance for the house churches. That is alone the end of the support of Communism. But it gets better 80 Million party members have quit, latest figure. of course 1/100 of the total population of China. Senior party members are petitioning the government to allow for greater freedom of the press, and other Glastnos and Prestroika reforms.

How Taiwan fits into this, since Taiwan is a multiparty nation, China will likewise just treat Taiwan as a province, and the KMT will run for office.. the leader of the KMT will likely kill himself or herself in a year however. This is like inheriting a really crappy house mansion that you have to fix up. While the renovations are carried out not even 20 years. But surly they'll be done, however, because the country is in such a toxic mess, elections will just be a effective as Haiti, Iraq, Burma, and other elections in messed up countries. There could be a possibilty of one of those really screwed up leaders to emerge, ala Golkar, or PRI, or Fuji shock, or Ortega, or hell even Burma. But at least China will now be able to address such grievances. It'll be a slow crawl back to grace though.

Hong Kong, and Macau, since the centuries of seperation from China, both City states perhaps would exist as Singapore does, a city state, Both cities are capable of doing so.

Tibet, Ughirstan, Manchria, Inner Outermongolia, and probably Guangxi, will break free of China, or at least like other "republics" in the Commonwealth of Independent States, will perhaps enjoy greater autonomy, as enjoyed by Macau and Hong Kong. Ughistan and Tibet however would become independent countries.

Tibet might form a repressive therocracy again. (thiveing=eye gouging). This being the case China should just take back or destroy all capital facilities, and destroy the railway, paid by Chinese resources. Evil Chinese resources, but neverless resources! Tibetan Lord would probably resume making raids into Zhaung (a ethnic minority of China), for girls again. And The world will know. after all it's now a democratic society isn't it?

This is good or China losing all this territory, they'll have to learn to rely on civilized means of commerce. Perhaps making geniune inventions the modern human society needs, so they can trade with Manchuria, (although the Laio have interegrated as Han Chinese for eternies now), and Hans and Manchus are actually closely related as the point of orgin stems from the "Dragon head looking thing" touching Korea. Outer Mongolia.... the majority is mostly Han I think...

Tibet will serve as a good buffer zone however, from India. especially if it's a UN country. Ughirstan. (the South belongs to the Ughirs, the North belongs to the Chinese) hopefully no more ethinic strife would occur because of these issues. China would eventually revert to something that resembles the remotely orginal Sino-sphere..

Other Communist states in Asia. Vietnam will still remain Communist, they have their own destiny that is not related to China. (most likely "Free Vietnamese" Government" (a terrorist group in California), will be encouraged to start trouble there. Likely they'lll be defeated, but there is no support for Vietnam and China. as both countries have strong animosity for each other.

North Korea.... although a Client state. and it's geographically isolated, under fueld and under supplied. Thigns WON'T be pretty, more starvation, more illness, and supply shortages. So much for Juche self reliance. They would struggle on, canablising it's own supplies, and resources for as long as possible. China will however, have it's own post communist problems. Without fuel from a destablized China, North Korea won't keep it's threats up anymore, meaning they'll have to conceed concessions for supplies.

If America is smart they would intervene before China goes to the dogs again, and someone even more creepier than the Communist Party takes control, Taiwan will need some time to reconsolate. It won't be a total collapse say Liberia, or Serria Leone, Or Uganda. But i'll suck. (Missionaries, those super rich Christian missionaries, if they're truly sincere, would pour buckets of salvation money into China, to win converts or something. This would even test the mettle of the Mormon missionary program, as it's always been a missionary's dream to be the mythical missionary who sets foot in China proper. However, the LDS church is facing similar problems, a grand exodus and erosion of their own. (which is where most of my predictions are coming from).

As for the Chinese people during this time. They'll survive and carry on, the mandate of heaven has been passed to ???, the victims of Chinese abuses, won't get compensated, with what? but they'll have justice. Whatever provisional government is left would tribunal guity party members. The Big leaders have long fled with the loot. The Chiense people more humane, will emerge (hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaahhaahahaha). But at least they'll something that resembles democracy. well what counts as a functional one anywas. As for all these minorities that break free. So long... farewell. It's time to say good bye.

What cause will the potheads champion now? please say Palistine. please say the Aborginals! You know there's an old saying point the finger of accusation, 3 point back at you. What about the aborginals of America, CANADA? and the abuses such as Ecoli, and substarndard genocide? Blame China? When my Canada also has a stinky pooey finger? I guess the truth hurts.... doesn't it?

This would



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10 Jan 2011, 6:50 am

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Nambo- there will be a number of people who come to Christ during the tribulation, they are the ones who will have to endure the tribulation, the "already-saved" will be gone. The "Age of Grace" will end with the rapture, it began the day Jesus rose to heaven.


As a Christian, I don't wish to be raptured. I wish to stay on Earth where I can contiue to serve people. This is what enraptures me brings me rapturous joy.



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10 Jan 2011, 8:11 am

@Sillycat

That is an extremely interesting view of China. Something that one does not usually get on CNN or MSNBC.

Thank you.

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10 Jan 2011, 2:00 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Prediction:

1. The United States Supreme Court will rule that Obamacare is unconstitutional.


I don't disagree with you, in so far as the individual mandate is concerned. But the Republicans should be careful what they wish for, because they just might get it.

If the individual mandate is struck down and the rest of the legislation is found to be valid, that will leave an unsustainable system. People will be able to avoid the system during their years of health and productivity and only check into the system when they feel unwell. Private insurers will have no basis on which to refuse them coverage. Only two possibilities can result: bankruptcy of the private insurance system, or an astronomical increase in premiums to cover that risk.

Or, Congress could try and impose the individual mandate indirectly, through, for example rewards for people who buy insurance or penalties for those who refuse and later seek to opt in. But if the Republicans block those, then universality of coverage will collapse, demonstrating that the only way to accomplish universality is through a government insurance system.

Tens of millions of Americans who have been promised universal coverage only to have it denied by Republican manouevering will know exactly where to lay the blame.

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2. There will be violence in the streets of France and Belgium from riots as those two countries suffer bankruptcy.


I think you are picking the wrong countries. Spain and Portugal are far more likely to be next after Greece and Eire.

I will go a step further, and suggest that German will muscle these four out of the Euro.

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3. More and more Americans will become disenchanted with the Obama administration.


The problem now is that the Speaker has to wear some of that. If people aren't happy with Washington, Congress wears as much of that as the White House.

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4. Republicans take the Senate in 2012 and the Presidency, and start cutting the budget to attempt to deal with the crushing debt.


I think that you are dreaming in Technicolor (tm) here. The Republicans are between a rock and a hard place. If they can't deliver the goods, then they will develop no momentum to take either the Presidency or the Senate. On the other hand, if they can deliver the goods, then they will hand the Administration and the Senate majority a share in the credit.

In the meantime, the Republicans are fighting a two front war. Nominations are won in your base, and the Tea Party has been chipping away at that. But elections are won in the center. If the Republicans go too far to the right, to appease the Tea Partiers, then they lose any chance in key states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. If they move too far to the centre, they risk losing more nomination battles to Tea Partiers, and possibly hand the House back in 2012.

The much stronger Republican strategy seems to me to be to wait until 2016.


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10 Jan 2011, 3:35 pm

Members of the Tea Party will begin fighting among themselves by January 2012.

The House AND the Senate will still be a lame-duck Congress even after the 2012 Presidential election, because of GOP control in the House and of Democrat control in the Senate.

A Second Christian Revival, though I hope not, by November 2012.

We will be at war with Iran by this fall.

People will go back to the Democrats by March 2012.

The Supreme Court will say specific parts of ObamaCare is unconstitutional.


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10 Jan 2011, 3:37 pm

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by 2020 the United States of America will cease to exist, or become a third world dictatorship when Barry (Soetoro) Obama dissolves congress for the first time since colonial days.

by 2016 every person on earth will be mandated to have a computer chip placed in their forehead or a righthand knuckle, this will become currency, no more paper changing hands.

by 2015 a single world government will begin to take shape with russia entering the EU, and a peace treaty signed between the NHK (Northern Hemisphere Kingdom) and Israel. Dictator OhBummer will have a leading role in the war against Israel.

sometime in 2011 (good intelligence point to may 21) The Rapture will occur. Emergency measures will be taken to prevent a re-election in 2012 and 2016

Fasten Your Seatbelts, for too many of you, this is going to be a bumpy ride!


Care to wager all of your possessions on the rapture? If no rapture occurs in 2011 I get everything you own. If one does occur, I'll make sure everything you own gets donated to charity, since presumably you would be gone.


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10 Jan 2011, 8:54 pm

Regarding the Rapture, and dont blame me for this, Iam just relating it.
Project "Bluebeam" is the supposed hoax Alien invasion that will be used as an excuse for a united government as the only way to combat it, Christians allready know not to submit to this "New World Order" when it comes, so they have to be got rid of.
Apparently its going to be arranged to make the rapture believing Christians, belive they should get on some big spaceship but will really be done away with, when people ask where all the Christians went, the answer wont be "we stuck em in the gas chambers", it will be, "they where taken in the rapture".

Personally, Iam not going anywhere, Iam sure if God wanted to whisk me off somewhere he could do it on his own.
Just in case, be carefull you "Rapture" dudes.



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10 Jan 2011, 9:40 pm

Nambo wrote:
Regarding the Rapture, and dont blame me for this, Iam just relating it.
Project "Bluebeam" is the supposed hoax Alien invasion that will be used as an excuse for a united government as the only way to combat it, Christians allready know not to submit to this "New World Order" when it comes, so they have to be got rid of.
Apparently its going to be arranged to make the rapture believing Christians, belive they should get on some big spaceship but will really be done away with, when people ask where all the Christians went, the answer wont be "we stuck em in the gas chambers", it will be, "they where taken in the rapture".

Personally, Iam not going anywhere, Iam sure if God wanted to whisk me off somewhere he could do it on his own.
Just in case, be carefull you "Rapture" dudes.


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12 Jan 2011, 11:48 am

Nambo wrote:
Regarding the Rapture, and dont blame me for this, Iam just relating it.
Project "Bluebeam" is the supposed hoax Alien invasion that will be used as an excuse for a united government as the only way to combat it, Christians allready know not to submit to this "New World Order" when it comes, so they have to be got rid of.
Apparently its going to be arranged to make the rapture believing Christians, belive they should get on some big spaceship but will really be done away with, when people ask where all the Christians went, the answer wont be "we stuck em in the gas chambers", it will be, "they where taken in the rapture".

Personally, Iam not going anywhere, Iam sure if God wanted to whisk me off somewhere he could do it on his own.
Just in case, be carefull you "Rapture" dudes.


Good to know. I know better than to get onboard a spaceship, I know that when the rapture happens we Christians will essentially vaporize...come to think of it... Ruveyn et. al. should be happy to see the rapture, all us annoying Jesus Freaks will be out of your hair.


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15 Jan 2011, 4:35 pm

thechadmaster wrote:
Good to know. I know better than to get onboard a spaceship, I know that when the rapture happens we Christians will essentially vaporize...come to think of it... Ruveyn et. al. should be happy to see the rapture, all us annoying Jesus Freaks will be out of your hair.


It's nice to see such lovely evidence that Christianity is a Death Cult. Tell me, how bad will you feel if you die in 2070 only to discover rapture hasn't occured?


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15 Jan 2011, 7:03 pm

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thechadmaster wrote:
Good to know. I know better than to get onboard a spaceship, I know that when the rapture happens we Christians will essentially vaporize...come to think of it... Ruveyn et. al. should be happy to see the rapture, all us annoying Jesus Freaks will be out of your hair.


It's nice to see such lovely evidence that Christianity is a Death Cult. Tell me, how bad will you feel if you die in 2070 only to discover rapture hasn't occured?


All religions are death cults. Adherents are so scared of dying they put lipstick on a skull.



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15 Jan 2011, 7:13 pm

How about religions that do not have an afterlife ?


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16 Jan 2011, 12:24 am

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How about religions that do not have an afterlife ?


For instance?