British mothers thrown out of nursery for being.. British :/
Macbeth wrote:
murphycop wrote:
Simonono wrote:
I read this story in the newspaper, and it is absolutely outrageous. It's proof right there that Britain has been taken over by foreigners. I'm up for a war 
I'll join you
Against whom? It isn't "foreigners" who created one-sided legislation or bothered to raise a generation or two of people without usable job skills.
Against the goverment and the revolting "do gooder" human rights twats. I can imagine its a lot more difficult for us to be qualified in this country, thats why we get foreigners coming here and doing a lot of our skilled jobs, like doctors. Imagine having a foreign ear, nose and throat specalist, dealing with a virtually deaf person. You can't understand what half of them are saying even if you have decent hearing.
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Dantac wrote:
murphycop wrote:
The point is that the nursery shouldn't even exist, not if its just for foreigners.
Does the UK not have immigrant-only programs in schools/universities and other benefits available only to non-british residents? They exist for a reason... this case is just one example of someone trying to tap into a free service set up for others.
There is very little information in the article as to the nursery itself... but it does state it is council-run and therefore likely to be state-funded. Since it is a free service its likely set up to provide child care for immigrants who maybe could not afford a daycare for their kids.
"Trainee midwife Ms Wildman, also from St Neots, chose the group because it was free - other groups in the area charged £2"
That right there is why she went. It was free. If she was a low income british mother that could not afford to pay the other nursery places then she would be receiving some other sort of aid from the gov. services. Thing is, I doubt that is the case for this woman.. she simply saw a way to save some money by taking the kid to a free daycare center.
I know, I agree with what you're saying, don't get me started on welfare mothers. How could the last goverment make out all the foreigners coming in to our country was good for the economy when they get all these free services and they'll send most of the money they earn, home.
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Dantac wrote:
murphycop wrote:
The point is that the nursery shouldn't even exist, not if its just for foreigners.
Does the UK not have immigrant-only programs in schools/universities and other benefits available only to non-british residents? They exist for a reason... this case is just one example of someone trying to tap into a free service set up for others.
There is very little information in the article as to the nursery itself... but it does state it is council-run and therefore likely to be state-funded. Since it is a free service its likely set up to provide child care for immigrants who maybe could not afford a daycare for their kids.
"Trainee midwife Ms Wildman, also from St Neots, chose the group because it was free - other groups in the area charged £2"
That right there is why she went. It was free. If she was a low income british mother that could not afford to pay the other nursery places then she would be receiving some other sort of aid from the gov. services. Thing is, I doubt that is the case for this woman.. she simply saw a way to save some money by taking the kid to a free daycare center.
Because GOD FORBID that a woman living in Austerity Britain should think to find cheap, discounted or free services for her children....
And no, being a low income mother does not de facto mean you are receiving aid from other government services at all. A trainee midwife is in paid employment. Thus she does not receive government help, with the possible exception of tax credits. But all that is irrelevant. Even if she is just freeloading.
THIS IS THE ISSUE:
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Making Links is funded with cash from a number of bodies, including the local authority, lottery cash, Government funding, the co-operative community development fund and the Open Door Church in St Neots.
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
By excluding indigenous mothers they are totally defeating their own stated aims. There can be no interaction between communities if the communities are segregated. It is helping them build multi-cultural friendships with everyone BUT the one they are living in. On the taxpayers coin. THAT is the problem, not whether someone wanted cheap daycare or whether we have been invaded by johnny foreigner. Maybe people should take their heads out of the Daily Fail and actually study the real problems we have before blaming everything on benefits claimants and foreigners.
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murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It does seem that way.
Perhaps I ought to move to England then.
Haha wow! Well as an American you'd be treated pretty much the same as us. If you wanted to stay here you'd have to get married to an English woman. Well for full time citizenship.
Well, my wife's last name was Wyatt and her family once had a castle in England. She's half English, genealogically, but I doubt that means much nor should it really. Just the same as all of the foreigners or descendants of non-"Anglo-Saxons" in Britain or America demanding special privileges due their place of birth or genealogy or due to somehow being oppressed by the Nasty Evil Whiteman© whose imaginary goals are to oppress the underprivileged masses of non-"Anglo-Saxons" even though the governments of our nations continually seek to discriminate in their favor.
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It does seem that way.
Perhaps I ought to move to England then.
Haha wow! Well as an American you'd be treated pretty much the same as us. If you wanted to stay here you'd have to get married to an English woman. Well for full time citizenship.
Well, my wife's last name was Wyatt and her family once had a castle in England. She's half English, genealogically, but I doubt that means much nor should it really. Just the same as all of the foreigners or descendants of non-"Anglo-Saxons" in Britain or America demanding special privileges due their place of birth or genealogy or due to somehow being oppressed by the Nasty Evil Whiteman© whose imaginary goals are to oppress the underprivileged masses of non-"Anglo-Saxons" even though the governments of our nations continually seek to discriminate in their favor.
That one then. Allington Castle, ancestral home of the Wyatts.
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Macbeth wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It does seem that way.
Perhaps I ought to move to England then.
Haha wow! Well as an American you'd be treated pretty much the same as us. If you wanted to stay here you'd have to get married to an English woman. Well for full time citizenship.
Well, my wife's last name was Wyatt and her family once had a castle in England. She's half English, genealogically, but I doubt that means much nor should it really. Just the same as all of the foreigners or descendants of non-"Anglo-Saxons" in Britain or America demanding special privileges due their place of birth or genealogy or due to somehow being oppressed by the Nasty Evil Whiteman© whose imaginary goals are to oppress the underprivileged masses of non-"Anglo-Saxons" even though the governments of our nations continually seek to discriminate in their favor.

That one then. Allington Castle, ancestral home of the Wyatts.
That's pretty cool. My wife said that was the name of it. She said it was on fire by accident at one point.
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So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It seems that several Western countries are, to varying extents, dominated by media and political elites hostile to the interests of their majority populations, not just England and America.
But if one spends too much time wondering why one will quickly be called a "fascist" or "conspiracy theorist".
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THIS IS THE ISSUE:
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Making Links is funded with cash from a number of bodies, including the local authority, lottery cash, Government funding, the co-operative community development fund and the Open Door Church in St Neots.
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
By excluding indigenous mothers they are totally defeating their own stated aims. There can be no interaction between communities if the communities are segregated. It is helping them build multi-cultural friendships with everyone BUT the one they are living in. On the taxpayers coin. THAT is the problem, not whether someone wanted cheap daycare or whether we have been invaded by johnny foreigner.
It is true that segregation prevents communities interacting, but whether that is a problem (or "the problem") or not is a matter of opinion. In my opinion the problem is that the British establishment is hostile to the ethnic interests of the indigenous people (and that this holds true whether they are funding "immigrant only" facilities with taxpayers' money or whether they are forcing integration on an indigenous population who never asked for it).
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codarac wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It seems that several Western countries are, to varying extents, dominated by media and political elites hostile to the interests of their majority populations, not just England and America.
But if one spends too much time wondering why one will quickly be called a "fascist" or "conspiracy theorist".
The more common term of labeling of libel in America for such cognitive actions is "racist" which means about as much as the term "terrorist" applied to most people groped by the Transit Security Administration.
codarac wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
THIS IS THE ISSUE:
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Making Links is funded with cash from a number of bodies, including the local authority, lottery cash, Government funding, the co-operative community development fund and the Open Door Church in St Neots.
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
By excluding indigenous mothers they are totally defeating their own stated aims. There can be no interaction between communities if the communities are segregated. It is helping them build multi-cultural friendships with everyone BUT the one they are living in. On the taxpayers coin. THAT is the problem, not whether someone wanted cheap daycare or whether we have been invaded by johnny foreigner.
It is true that segregation prevents communities interacting, but whether that is a problem (or "the problem") or not is a matter of opinion. In my opinion the problem is that the British establishment is hostile to the ethnic interests of the indigenous people (and that this holds true whether they are funding "immigrant only" facilities with taxpayers' money or whether they are forcing integration on an indigenous population who never asked for it).
No. The problem with this specific situation is that the nursery in question are going against their own stated aims. Their own stated aims are not to create an "immigrant only" situation.
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codarac wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?
It seems that several Western countries are, to varying extents, dominated by media and political elites hostile to the interests of their majority populations, not just England and America.
But if one spends too much time wondering why one will quickly be called a "fascist" or "conspiracy theorist".
I'm worried, but when news about pollution, lack of natural resources and water hit the fan, it won't matter who's the majority in EU in 40 years. The world will be so screwed up, the muslims will be the least of our problems. Mainstream talks all the time how muslims will be majority, but they don't say how much oil or drinking water will remain. Or where will we dump all the garbage. Constant economic growth produces more and more waste. Nuclear power plants, genetically modified food, we produce and consume more and more poisons, will it really matter who's the majority?
Have you seen "Children Of Men"?
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No. The problem with this specific situation is that the nursery in question are going against their own stated aims. Their own stated aims are not to create an "immigrant only" situation.
Fair enough. Maybe I was focusing too much on the bigger picture (or how I perceive the bigger picture anyway) to see your point.
murphycop wrote:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23915690-mothers-turned-away-from-playgroup-for-being-british.do
I wonder how far its gonna go before crap like this is stopped. The Equality and Human Rights Commision said it was not unlawful to bar British mums and children from such a group. But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.
I wonder how far its gonna go before crap like this is stopped. The Equality and Human Rights Commision said it was not unlawful to bar British mums and children from such a group. But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.
What one sees here is an example of a self defeating cause.
I'm all for immigration, but personally I feel immigrants should make certain efforts to integrate into the society into which they immigrated.
Too frequently, immigrants today bring with them the cultural aspects, mentalities, and philosophies which spawned or perpetuated the aspects of their own society from which they were trying to escape.
My great grandmother on my father's side was an immigrant and spoke four languages but she only spoken one of them to her children, and that was English. Her children were American and she expected them to fully conform to American ideals.
My great great great grandfather on my mother's side had the honor of having someone propose the town he had help to found be named after him, and he struck the idea down on the basis that his name didn't sound American enough.
murphycop wrote:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23915690-mothers-turned-away-from-playgroup-for-being-british.do
I wonder how far its gonna go before crap like this is stopped. The Equality and Human Rights Commision said it was not unlawful to bar British mums and children from such a group. But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.
I wonder how far its gonna go before crap like this is stopped. The Equality and Human Rights Commision said it was not unlawful to bar British mums and children from such a group. But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.
Where does it say that the human rights commission said it was lawful. The person running the group said it was lawful, since when are they a representative of the human rights commision? Show me the ruling from the human rights commission and I may believe what you are saying, but at the moment it is just a group saying that they will not allow such women, and there is no evidence that they have made a complaint to the human rights commission.
And since when does it say the group is for muslims only. THere are millions of people in the UK from other countries and I would suspect that many of them are not muslims. By my understanding if I was in the UK and I children I would be able to attend that group as I am from Australia. It simply says it is for people from other countries, not of other religions. And there are people who were born in britian that are muslim as well.
I do tend to think that it is not looking at integrating them, but there are times that we do make exemptions to laws for a variety of different reasons. In Australia in order to be able to exclude people from things you would need an exemption from the human rights commission. They are granted for a whole range of reasons. For example womens rape crisis centres can get an exemption to only employ female staff, but at the same time that also means that men's services can get an exemption to only employ male staff. They are required to prove a reason for the need and that other such services exist. There was a request a council run pool for there to be times for muslim women to swim alone. To some degree they got what they wanted. They do now have female only swimming times but they are open to all women and they also now have male only swimming times open to all men!! ! They did not see that there was a need for them to swim with only muslim women but they did see it as reasonable to request a time for women only swimming, but to do that they also had to offer men only swimming times!!
The fact that it is free and all others cost is a concern to me. In my understanding of the Australian human rights commission it would be allowed if there were other services the same in the area. So there would need to be free services to people born in britian. The other reality is that most of them would be british citizens and would be recieving benefits and the like from the government. The chances of them being non lawful citizens are slim and my understanding of the UK is that people are provided with benefits when they do come there lawfully the same as UK people, but sometimes at slightly lower rates. In Australia they are entitled to all of our welfare benefits when they are offered permanent residency and the only way to be in Australia without that would be on a working visa or student visa where they are totally self funded, so they would be able to afford to attend such things and/or a visitors visa and I doubt the need for visitors to have children in playgroups!! ! To me there is no reason for them to have this for free if other british mothers do not also get it for free.
Having said that in Australia we do have free specailised play groups for children who are diagnosed with Autism. Doesn't that discriminate against children who are not diagnosed and doesn't it segregate them and not enable them to intergrate into the community?? Yet most people seem supportive and OK about that, but are not about people from other countries.
Trust me I have met thousands of people from other countries in Australia that I do not think should be here, that refuse to learn the language, have anything to do with our society, etc. Having said that there are many more I have met who have made huge efforts to make this there home, to intergrate into our communities, etc. I also feel that they should be able to maintain their own cultural heritage. In fact if they did not we would not have all the different types of restaurants and the like that we do have, and I for one love Italian and chinese food to name some international countries. At one stage in our countries we were not supportive of thoese people from those cultures either, now we have embraced them. Sure there are some radical muslims here, as there are in the UK and the US, but the vast majority I have met are really nice, and really do hate the radicals and are ashamed of what has been done in the name of their religion.
There are christian churches in the US that will not allow guide dogs into the church. And then there is a muslim mosque in the UK that has a guide dog attending congregational prayers. Which one is doing the morally right thing there???
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Dantac wrote:
murphycop wrote:
The point is that the nursery shouldn't even exist, not if its just for foreigners.
Does the UK not have immigrant-only programs in schools/universities and other benefits available only to non-british residents? They exist for a reason... this case is just one example of someone trying to tap into a free service set up for others.
There is very little information in the article as to the nursery itself... but it does state it is council-run and therefore likely to be state-funded. Since it is a free service its likely set up to provide child care for immigrants who maybe could not afford a daycare for their kids.
"Trainee midwife Ms Wildman, also from St Neots, chose the group because it was free - other groups in the area charged £2"
That right there is why she went. It was free. If she was a low income british mother that could not afford to pay the other nursery places then she would be receiving some other sort of aid from the gov. services. Thing is, I doubt that is the case for this woman.. she simply saw a way to save some money by taking the kid to a free daycare center.
Because GOD FORBID that a woman living in Austerity Britain should think to find cheap, discounted or free services for her children....
And no, being a low income mother does not de facto mean you are receiving aid from other government services at all. A trainee midwife is in paid employment. Thus she does not receive government help, with the possible exception of tax credits. But all that is irrelevant. Even if she is just freeloading.
THIS IS THE ISSUE:
Quote:
Making Links is funded with cash from a number of bodies, including the local authority, lottery cash, Government funding, the co-operative community development fund and the Open Door Church in St Neots.
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
According to its website the group, staffed by church volunteers, “seeks to operate in the spirit of the Commission for Racial Equality”.
Its targets include: “Bringing communities together and facilitating interaction between them.”
The website claims about 50 women attend the weekly sessions and adds: “Making Links frees them from feelings of isolation, helps them build multicultural friendships and empowers them with knowledge about the local community. Thus Making Links presents a friendly St Neots face to people who might otherwise be outsiders.”
By excluding indigenous mothers they are totally defeating their own stated aims. There can be no interaction between communities if the communities are segregated. It is helping them build multi-cultural friendships with everyone BUT the one they are living in. On the taxpayers coin. THAT is the problem, not whether someone wanted cheap daycare or whether we have been invaded by johnny foreigner. Maybe people should take their heads out of the Daily Fail and actually study the real problems we have before blaming everything on benefits claimants and foreigners.
But foreigners are a huge problem. If 95% of the jobs created under Labour went to foreigners, how much of that money do you think stayed in our economy? I heard about what went on in Ireland too. Eastern Europeans were getting a cheap flight over to Ireland each week, taking benefits and then flying the money back home. They were only caught when authorities wondered why they hadn't come for their money for a few weeks, they were stuck at home cause of the Volcano ash storm in Iceland.
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