how to build a progressive tea-party
Jacoby wrote:
It's a spending problem, not a revenue problem. You simply can not raise enough revenue. The students in the UK and naive leftists in the US are understandably upset, the free lunch they were promised was in reality a massive ponzi scheme doomed to collapse. Entitlements must be cut massively.(a long with other massive cuts across the board) They will be painful but they must be done.
Personally, I really love how US Rightwingers talk about Social Security as an "entitlement program" without mentioning why it is so (the case being that US citizens PAY INTO the program).
Anyway, you're ideas are inane. Disinvesting in human capital (education) and failing to prop up aggregate demand in desperate times are the sure way to shrink the economy, which leads to even bigger deficits in the long run. It's really right-libertopians who are naive to think that a government budget works like a private household's budget.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_B5MTJofI[/youtube]
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jamieboy wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
lol no it isn't. Can you come up with 2 trillion dollars in additional tax revenue while still having a functional economy? No. Even if you could, which you can't, our spending will continue to go up and up and up from entitlements and interest on our $14 trillion national debt, You can not even think about tackling the debt without massive spending cuts. If spending was the solution, we would of never had the problem.
Do you not think that reason the US deficit is so big is that it spends ten times more on defence than the next 9 nations combined? Are these entitlements? Or are entitlments only spending that's aimed at the poor and not defence contractors?
The funny thing about that - didn't Britain run out recently on Libya after a short run? I a sense we are running a welfare of sorts - its a military welfare where European countries can dedicate their budgets to social programs while they have us come to the rescue when things go sour in one way or another.
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Master_Pedant wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_B5MTJofI[/youtube]
Keynesianism might work to a certain point but might it be a strain on the imagination to consider it boundless? Its like pretending that the Fed's control of interest rates or the IRS's sculpting private spending via new exemptions have that power. It would also be wonderful if we just owed ourselves, we know for certain that this is far from the truth.
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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Keynesianism might work to a certain point but might it be a strain on the imagination to consider it boundless? Its like pretending that the Fed's control of interest rates or the IRS's sculpting private spending via new exemptions have that power. It would also be wonderful if we just owed ourselves, we know for certain that this is far from the truth.
The video clearly specifies the bounds - the put at which we're printing money for no new real goods or services, the point at which a nation has outstretched it's productive capacity. Underdeveloped nations can do this a lot more easily than industrialized countries.
