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29 Mar 2011, 1:37 pm

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He might not be stupid but he is still a Bible thumping loony.

This is why I have a problem with Atheists.

Because we think you're silly for still playing make-believe instead of growing up and living in reality?

I would actually point out that it takes just as much faith to believe there is no god as it does to believe in God.

And I would say you're full of s**t.

I have no reason to even think there might be a god. There hasn't been the first step in proving anything: observation. There has been no observation of anything that qualifies as god.

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29 Mar 2011, 1:47 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

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He might not be stupid but he is still a Bible thumping loony.

This is why I have a problem with Atheists.

Because we think you're silly for still playing make-believe instead of growing up and living in reality?

I would actually point out that it takes just as much faith to believe there is no god as it does to believe in God.

And I would say you're full of sh**.

I have no reason to even think there might be a god. There hasn't been the first step in proving anything: observation. There has been no observation of anything that qualifies as god.

I honestly have no idea how he can say that it involves faith to be Atheist. Where are our rites and practices? What is the indoctrination methodology? What does 'faith' in Atheism require?

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29 Mar 2011, 1:48 pm

Whether or not he believes in God isn't my issue with him. It's that he's overzealous about it.

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29 Mar 2011, 1:50 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

Whether or not he believes in God isn't my issue with him. It's that he's overzealous about it.

How is he overzealous? Publicly saying you believe in this or that doesn't make one overzealous.

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29 Mar 2011, 1:52 pm

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I honestly have no idea how he can say that it involves faith to be Atheist.

I can. If it's endemic to your life, it seems to just be something that you always knew and the idea was always there and to go against it seems like it'd be some big jump.

The problem is that reality doesn't work like that and proving things works not off faith but off observation, hypothesis, testing, then retesting, the theory, then retesting, re-writing the theory, observation, hypothesis, testing, adding on to the theory.....

Basically he doesn't see reality for what it is, he sees it for what he's brainwashed to see.

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29 Mar 2011, 1:55 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

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Whether or not he believes in God isn't my issue with him. It's that he's overzealous about it.

How is he overzealous? Publicly saying you believe in this or that doesn't make one overzealous.

Well he seems pretty paranoid about the acceptance of gays and secularism by making it out to be some sort of hostile takeover. But he isn't nearly as bad as Huckabee.

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29 Mar 2011, 1:57 pm

skafather84 wrote:

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I honestly have no idea how he can say that it involves faith to be Atheist.

That is a good way of putting it.
I haven't gone through life thinking 'there is definitely no God out there' though. I haven't even been in a religion. Tbh, I don't feel Atheism defines my personality or (most of) my viewpoints, as I don't even consider the whole God debate even relevant to me. Sometimes I feel the term 'Apatheist' might be more accurate to describe me

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29 Mar 2011, 2:04 pm

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I honestly have no idea how he can say that it involves faith to be Atheist.

What's kinda funny is, mentally, I relate it to the warp whistle in Mario Bros. 3. Everyone knows that it's by standing on the white block and holding down for 3 seconds but no one can really remember where they know it from, it's just always been a part of their general knowledge...same with the Konami code (up up down down left right left right B A start).

It feels almost like it's knowledge held since birth but it's not and in the case of a god, it's not even knowledge but awareness of a story that, for some reason, you still believe to be true.

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29 Mar 2011, 2:14 pm

I wouldn't call Gingrich 'intelligent' so much as 'canny.' I think he's an absolutely amoral, but very astute, politician.

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29 Mar 2011, 4:02 pm

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Lies. I remember the exact issue of the nintendo magazine I read at 2 (whilst not actually having played SB3 at all) that taught me that before I could use it two years later.

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29 Mar 2011, 4:10 pm

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Lies. I remember the exact issue of the nintendo magazine I read at 2 (whilst not actually having played SB3 at all) that taught me that before I could use it two years later.

Not the point but yeah...actually, I think I got it from the movie the Wizard then from the NES Atlas.

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29 Mar 2011, 4:16 pm

Newt Gingrich, Republican candidate for President wrote:

‎I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time [my kids are] my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists

He doesn't have to be stupid per se, but he definitely struggles with the English language.

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29 Mar 2011, 4:19 pm

LKL wrote:

I wouldn't call Gingrich 'intelligent' so much as 'canny.' I think he's an absolutely amoral, but very astute, politician.

Give us your definition of "intelligent".

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29 Mar 2011, 4:20 pm

MidlifeAspie wrote:

Newt Gingrich, Republican candidate for President wrote:

He doesn't have to be stupid per se, but he definitely struggles with the English language.

How many books have you published?

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29 Mar 2011, 4:31 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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Newt Gingrich, Republican candidate for President wrote:

He doesn't have to be stupid per se, but he definitely struggles with the English language.

How many books have you published?

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Is that the new benchmark for intelligence?

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29 Mar 2011, 4:38 pm

Given the number of women with whom Mr. Gingrich has been entangled, I really don't see him as trustworthy enough to serve as president.

If his own wives can't trust him to run a family unit, then how can we trust him to run a country?

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