"Debate nationalism"

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Not really. If you want to leave the EU and you want us all to integrate and live peacefully, you're not a fascist.

If you want to kick people out of the country who have lived here all their lives for being darker skinned, then you're a fascist.

My own grandmother boult into Powell's shite at first then with time she understood that he was talking out of a***hole.

Have you looked at Powell's thoughts on social policy? He was very different from what you'd expect. He rejected outright the idea of standing for the National Front (who were comparatively very popular in the 1970s).

Powell was a complicated individual in many ways anyway.

Well, it depends also upon what sources of information a person is using. Liberals think that Fox is nothing except for propaganda and I personally think National Public Radio is liberal propaganda anytime they make a commentary about world events or financial matters. A foreigner (which is, annoyingly enough how most people who don't know the correct pronunciation of my name often pronounce my name) who sides with a certain side on the basis of issues will sound knowledgeable to those who have the same views and they will sound ignorant to those who don't share their views. An inhabitant of a country would know more of the precise regions they have lived in through personal experience whereas the foreigner may or may not have better knowledge on the basis of their method for obtaining knowledge. Anyone can research statistics and demographics, and then there's the sloppy issue of saying what the contextually abstracted numerical data actually can validly imply versus what politicians and their media cronies can use them to say. A foreigner with a knowledge of economics would be better off to judge an economic situation than an inhabitant who only knows "I can't find work and this sucks".

Fair comment, yes the quality of media as a key role to play. Most of the UK daily newspapers do have a propaganda feel & a sway to a political party.

This is a biased poll if there ever was one.

It is one thing for someone from another country to weigh in on a political discussion, it is another for someone to try and force-feed a long set of private agendas on members from another country- especially when they proceed to talk down to them when they don't said foreigner's views.

That's what I was trying to get at, but thank you for putting it so succinctly.

You don't live here, you don't have our problems and so you don't know what is best for us.

If there's one thing that people really hate and that is more likely to inspire resentment and bitterness than anything else it's suffering foreign people who don't even live in the country concerned lecturing the residents on what is best for them.

i dont think there are many unique problems in the world so why not try to help eachother gain a better understanding by combining our experiences?

No-one minds sharing experiences and viewpoints. It's entirely different though if, say, someone from Denmark start insisting that they know what's better for the UK and ignoring the viewpoints of people that actually live there (or, indeed, vice versa).

true
but to be honest i think any kind of national bias, even towards ones own country will manifest in impaired judgment.

I spend quite a lot of my time commenting on US politics on here as that's what quite a few of the threads are about. I've had people trying to ascribe views to me based on the fact that i'm english a number of times. That irritates me more.

I think that

1. Everyone should feel free to comment on the affairs of any country on here.

2. No one should have views ascribed to them based on where they are from.

What amazing powers of inference you have!



Like all despots, it seems the John_Browning is confusing advocating a policy or ideology on a public forum that members voluntary view/respond to with coercive practice. Regardless, I generally only "talk down" to people at the point of fustration where other PPR people would be swearing.

That's what makes us human.

Not reallly. I'm human and i have no bias towards my own country's alleged superiority.

Patriotism is an in-vitro child of xenophobia, pride and idiocy.

xenophobia and idiocy mixed their sperm samples in a bottle and used them to fertilize eggs stolen from pride.

Nationalism is what happens when patriotism gets drunk.


Edit: And yes, that means pride's a girl, a little girl full of complexes.

and even though i am often using denmark as an example, i spent most of my teenage years fleeing the place, to me the only kind of bias i have towards denmark is the fact thaat people seem to have become contempt and therefore societal evolution seems to have grind to a halt, im frustrated about it to the point of meltdowns sometimes.

the reason i do use it is because often people speak in absolutes that have no place in a world of such diversity and it so happens that many of those arguments are false in denmark, while they mioght hold true for the country of the OP.