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HerrGrimm
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24 Apr 2011, 8:04 pm

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Seriously... you are trying to argue that the PPR and WP are not anti-Christian and then you make fun on a thread where someone mentions the Bible. *Not* Anti-Christian... yeah right... :roll: You pigeon-hole and stereotype Christians just as much or *more* that they do atheist.


Headphones are good. I usually listen to chill Celtic music or piano music to help me concentrate because they either don't have words or don't have ones you can recognize so I won't be distracted by them. It also depends on what part of the Bible you are trying to read. Romans and Hebrews are going to be difficult no matter what. On the other hand, James is rather straightforward.


I never argued that, that statement you made about this place being anti-Christian. It is complete fact and I never bothered to get into that. I do not want people to be in a land of make believe and this leap of faith stuff when science has completely replaced these myths. My hero is Christopher Hitchens and he would state the same thing if he was talking to you too. I have absolutely no problem criticizing ANY religion, so we are not talking about anti-Christianity here, it is ALL religions for me. I am not going to tell him to f*** off since people are entitled to their opinions, but hopefully I can change them.

You might get mad at me, but I am an honest guy and so is Hitchens. There are numerous other times I have talked to Christians without making these jokes, but when they fly low you have to shoot them. I do not go out of my way to make these statements, this one just came up. I am the one that told him to play Stryper though, just remember that.

The headphones as the best option though. Earplugs even since the headphones might be too heavy. There is no way I can get any work done if I listen to music at the same time.


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24 Apr 2011, 10:48 pm

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but a neighbor is blasting their music. It's very hard to concentrate. :(


Go somewhere else to read if you can't concentrate where you are currently, or wait until your neighbor stops the racket and then study.



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25 Apr 2011, 11:06 am

Ok let's change the scenario here.

An atheist is trying to study a book, but a neighbour is blasting their music.

The comments would change!!



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25 Apr 2011, 11:22 am

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I do not want people to be in a land of make believe and this leap of faith stuff when science has completely replaced these myths.

Ah, now here we go again ...

It is quite defensible to not want people to be in any "land of make-believe", but then must you also insist "science has (somehow) completely replaced" any alleged "myth" or whatever such as my claim of "God has done for me what neither I nor any doctor nor any scientist nor any other human being could ever do -- and we all certainly tried -- for myself" (as to the matter of my permanent recovery from chronic alcoholism)?

Over these past 30 years, I have watched many alcoholics die while hoping, wishing and even trying to recover in any other way ...

... and so now I also do not want people to either be in or to remain in any such "land of make-believe" even of any earthly nature.


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25 Apr 2011, 11:30 am

leejosepho wrote:
HerrGrimm wrote:
I do not want people to be in a land of make believe and this leap of faith stuff when science has completely replaced these myths.

Ah, now here we go again ...

It is quite defensible to not want people to be in any "land of make-believe", but then you must also insist "science has (somehow) completely replaced" any alleged "myth" or whatever such as my claim of "God has done for me what neither I nor any doctor nor any scientist nor any other human being could ever do -- as we all certainly tried -- for myself" (in the matter of my permanent recovery from chronic alcoholism)?

Over these past 30 years, I have watched many alcoholics die while hoping, wishing and even trying to recover in any other way ...

... and so now I also do not want people to either be in or to remain in any such "land of make-believe" even of any earthly nature.


Ok... "land of make-believe" might be derogatory, I'll give you that... But all religions are myths, or legends... stories handed down that may or may not have been built upon a seed or two of truth. I don't know why that has to be considered an insult. I personally don't believe god is a myth, I just think all of the various interpretations are.



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25 Apr 2011, 12:23 pm

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Ok... "land of make-believe" might be derogatory ...
I don't know why that has to be considered an insult.

I did not hear it as one; I just wanted other people to know the statement made had come from a land of make-believe!


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25 Apr 2011, 1:16 pm

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(Romans 12:17, 18) Return evil for evil to no one. ... If possible, as far as it depends upon YOU, be peaceable with all men.


Christian rock is evil? Something we can agree on! :lol:


Okay then blast some Kirk Franklin, or some Mahalia Jackson.



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25 Apr 2011, 4:37 pm

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Okay then blast some Kirk Franklin, or some Mahalia Jackson.

I can just never get my volume loud enough for this one ...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4HWj1jrJA[/youtube]


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25 Apr 2011, 4:49 pm

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Ok let's change the scenario here.

An atheist is trying to study a book, but a neighbour is blasting their music.

The comments would change!!


I would eat his babies, masturbate, smoke pot and have premarital sex with his gay lover.
duh.


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25 Apr 2011, 4:56 pm

ryan93 wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
Ok let's change the scenario here.

An atheist is trying to study a book, but a neighbour is blasting their music.

The comments would change!!


I would eat his babies, masturbate, smoke pot and have premarital sex with his gay lover.
duh.


Thanks for sharing with us your favourite recreational pastimes :wink:



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25 Apr 2011, 5:12 pm

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25 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

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but a neighbor is blasting their music. It's very hard to concentrate. :(

Go to your neighbor and tell him that you will exercise your 2nd amendment on him if he doesn't shut up, and then go read the Bible ;)



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25 Apr 2011, 6:09 pm

I am pretty sure that listening to loud music inside your house is kind of a right...


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25 Apr 2011, 6:12 pm

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I am pretty sure that listening to loud music inside your house is kind of a right...

Some locales or locations do have noise ordinances found necessary because of inconsiderate neighbors.


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25 Apr 2011, 6:17 pm

There are ordinances about too loud music, but I don't think we have a way to tell if in the OP's case it goes that loud. I think that often when music is illegally loud there are enough pissed off neighborgs to call whatever authority there is to enforce it, so I am assuming it was only loud but not too loud.

Really though, I should be able to listen to metal inside my house just as much as you should be able to read the bible, and if the loud music is not loud enough for authorities to intervene, try using ear supplements to avoid hearing the music.


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25 Apr 2011, 6:28 pm

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Really though, I should be able to listen to metal inside my house ... and if the loud music is not loud enough for authorities to intervene ...

... or if there is no ordinance in the first place, just go get a gun (and shoot the electrical transformer out by the street)?! :wink:


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